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Opportunities and Priorities for Dissemination and Implementation Research at the National Cancer Institute

February 14, 2024
  • 00:02<v ->We're very delighted to have Gila Neta,</v>
  • 00:07who is a Program Director for Implementation Science
  • 00:12in the Office of the Director
  • 00:13in the Division of Cancer Control and Population Sciences
  • 00:17at the National Cancer Institute.
  • 00:20And Gila has actually been a leader
  • 00:23in stimulating implementation science approaches
  • 00:28to cancer prevention at the NCI for,
  • 00:32I'm not sure how many years, 10 or even 15 years.
  • 00:35And encouraging research in this area, and fixing concepts
  • 00:41and theories of how to approach this sort of work,
  • 00:45and yeah, we just look to her for, in terms of cancer
  • 00:52and implementation science, she is the top person.
  • 00:57So we're thrilled to have her here today.
  • 01:00And we just found out that NCI and NIH people
  • 01:04are allowed to travel, but we weren't able to arrange that
  • 01:08in time for today.
  • 01:09So maybe we'll have her back another time
  • 01:11where we can meet with her in person.
  • 01:13But I just wanted to give a little more information
  • 01:15about her background before turning this over to her.
  • 01:19This talk is sponsored by the Center for Methods
  • 01:22and Implementation and Prevention Science
  • 01:25here at the Yale School of Public Health
  • 01:27and it's co-sponsored
  • 01:28by the Department of Chronic Disease Epidemiology,
  • 01:31led by Judy Liman, the chair, and also by the Yale Scholars
  • 01:36in Implementation Science Career Development Program,
  • 01:39our K12 program, which is actually funded by NHLBI,
  • 01:44but I think there are a number of people involved
  • 01:46who also are interested in cancer prevention and control,
  • 01:50and implementation science perspectives for that.
  • 01:54So Gila is the NCI Scientific lead
  • 01:59for funding announcements
  • 02:00and dissemination implementation research and health,
  • 02:04and assists with research and training activities
  • 02:06related to implementation science across the division.
  • 02:10And she has a secondary appointment within the Epidemiology
  • 02:13and Genomics Research Program
  • 02:15and the Center for Global Health.
  • 02:17And something I know about Gila
  • 02:19that isn't in her biography is, I think she,
  • 02:21you can correct me if I'm wrong, PhD Epidemiologist.
  • 02:25So you came to implementation science through epidemiology,
  • 02:29which is interesting and not the most common path.
  • 02:34Most people come to implementation science
  • 02:36through social sciences,
  • 02:38so it's nice to have a PhD epidemiologist
  • 02:42leading implementation science at NCI.
  • 02:46Dr. Neta's programmatic and research interests
  • 02:49within implementation science include training,
  • 02:52portfolio analysis, the use of the PRECIS criteria
  • 02:56in evaluating pragmatic trials.
  • 02:58Is that the correct pronunciation?
  • 03:01<v ->Yeah, PRECIS.</v>
  • 03:03<v ->PRECIS.</v>
  • 03:03Okay.
  • 03:04I did take French.
  • 03:07And that's something we actually covered in the course
  • 03:09I'm offering this semester on advanced methods
  • 03:12for implementation and prevention science.
  • 03:14Shared decision-making and cancer screening,
  • 03:16economic evaluation, de-implementation,
  • 03:19which we were just discussing on an earlier call
  • 03:23and the use of standardized measurement and reporting.
  • 03:26Dr. Neta's co-chair of the NIH-sponsored Annual Conference
  • 03:30on the Science of Dissemination and Implementation,
  • 03:33which many of us have participated in for many years
  • 03:35and had a very nice representation
  • 03:38from the Yale School of Public Health
  • 03:40and the Yale Medical School.
  • 03:41She also leads the NIH D&amp;I working group,
  • 03:45a trans-NIH initiative providing leadership and vision
  • 03:49for implementation science across the NIH.
  • 03:52Today she'll be talking about opportunities and priorities
  • 03:56for dissemination and implementation research
  • 03:58at the National Cancer Institute.
  • 04:00So Dr. Neta, I'm pleased to turn the mic
  • 04:03and screen over to you.
  • 04:04We're really looking forward to your talk today.
  • 04:07<v ->Great, thank you so much, Donna.</v>
  • 04:09And I should clarify that I don't lead
  • 04:13the NCI Implementation Science.
  • 04:15David Chambers is definitely our fearless leader,
  • 04:17although he does primarily come from mental health.
  • 04:20But I would say NCI as our team,
  • 04:23I'm on a large implementation science team
  • 04:26and we are seen as leaders across the NIH,
  • 04:28which is great because I have fantastic colleagues
  • 04:31and we are truly an interdisciplinary team.
  • 04:33So I do think, Donna, what you said is correct,
  • 04:35that I'm the lead epidemiologist in implementation science
  • 04:39at NCI, in part, 'cause I'm the only epidemiologist
  • 04:44in implementation science.
  • 04:45But it might be worth mentioning how I came to this
  • 04:48as I was, I did my postdoc in radiation epidemiology
  • 04:52and the questions that were most interesting to me
  • 04:54at that time, and that was when papers were coming out
  • 04:57about excess deaths due to unnecessary CT scans.
  • 05:02And so I was really interested in the question
  • 05:04of how do we de-implement, how do we de-implement
  • 05:06this practice of unnecessary CT scans
  • 05:09while I was doing my epidemiologic research
  • 05:12on the risk of thyroid cancer associated
  • 05:16with medical diagnostic radiation.
  • 05:20But what I was really sort of passionate about,
  • 05:22were asking those bigger questions.
  • 05:24So now I'm working with this very transdisciplinary team
  • 05:27at NCI and we consist of health services, researchers,
  • 05:33anthropologists, psychologists.
  • 05:37So it's just a fantastic, MBAs, MPAs.
  • 05:41So, fantastic Team.
  • 05:45One question I wanted to ask before we share the slides,
  • 05:49just to get a sense, and I don't know if it's easy
  • 05:52for people to raise their hands.
  • 05:55I believe raising your hand is an ability,
  • 06:00I'm curious.
  • 06:01<v Donna>If you go down to reactions</v>
  • 06:02and you click on reactions,
  • 06:04and then you'll see raise hand under reactions.
  • 06:08<v ->So I would love it if folks could raise their hand</v>
  • 06:10if you are an epidemiologist.
  • 06:14I'm just curious to get a sense.
  • 06:17Okay, great.
  • 06:18Oh, that's great.
  • 06:19It's even summarizing how many,
  • 06:22so we've got some epidemiologists in the group.
  • 06:25Can I see a show of hands of how many folks
  • 06:28have actually submitted a grant in implementation science?
  • 06:36<v Donna>You have to lower your hand and then re-raise it.</v>
  • 06:39<v ->Yeah, no, I see people lower.</v>
  • 06:41Okay, now lower your hands.
  • 06:42And maybe last question is,
  • 06:50or two, a two-part question, raise your hand if you are new
  • 06:56to implementation science.
  • 07:06Okay, great.
  • 07:07So a significant portion of you,
  • 07:11I'm glad that I anticipated that an introduction
  • 07:15to what implementation science is would be helpful
  • 07:19in addition to describing funding opportunities,
  • 07:23resources, and priorities.
  • 07:25<v Donna>It will be helpful, Dr. Neta.</v>
  • 07:27<v ->Great.</v>
  • 07:28Okay, great.
  • 07:29So with that then, William,
  • 07:31if you don't mind sharing my slides
  • 07:35and as Donna mentioned the title, the official title
  • 07:39of my talk is "Opportunities and Priorities
  • 07:41for Dissemination and Implementation Research
  • 07:43at the National Cancer Institute".
  • 07:46Summarizing that as implementation science
  • 07:48fits cleaner on the slide, but also what I'm going to share
  • 07:52with you, I do sit on the implementation science team,
  • 07:56but we do use dissemination and implementation research
  • 07:59and health sometimes interchangeably
  • 08:01with implementation science.
  • 08:03And as I'll describe a little bit later in my talk
  • 08:06for the purposes of our funding opportunities,
  • 08:09we do think of implementation science
  • 08:11as those two different component parts.
  • 08:14So I'll explain a little bit about that later.
  • 08:17But basically, on the next slide, I just wanna summarize
  • 08:22what I'm hoping to do over the next 50 minutes with you
  • 08:26or 49 minutes with you, which is give you
  • 08:30a brief background on what is implementation science
  • 08:33and why should we care.
  • 08:35Then do what Donna asked me to do,
  • 08:37which is talk about opportunities and priorities
  • 08:39in implementation science at NCI.
  • 08:41So I'm really hoping to wet your appetite in this field
  • 08:44and then hoping that you will reach out to me
  • 08:46or any folks on my team
  • 08:48to take advantage of these opportunities
  • 08:51and where our priorities may align with yours.
  • 08:54Great to explore ways to collaborate
  • 08:59and synergize those efforts.
  • 09:02And then finally, how can you learn more?
  • 09:04So on the next slide, just starting with
  • 09:08what is implementation science and why we should care?
  • 09:12So first wanted to start with just simple definitions
  • 09:15on the next slide, which is distinguishing the difference
  • 09:19between implementation science from implementation practice.
  • 09:23And I think in my,
  • 09:24I guess it's a little more than eight years
  • 09:27that I've been a program director on the team
  • 09:29and speaking with PIs,
  • 09:31I've realized sometimes this distinction
  • 09:34is not always clear upfront.
  • 09:36So implementation practice is simply using interventions
  • 09:39in healthcare and public health settings.
  • 09:41And perhaps, I shouldn't say simply
  • 09:43because that's complicated as well,
  • 09:45but implementation science is focused on studying the use
  • 09:49of those interventions in healthcare
  • 09:51and public health settings and specifically studying methods
  • 09:55and strategies to promote the uptake, the adoption,
  • 09:58and integration of that evidence into practice.
  • 10:03So why should we care about studying those things?
  • 10:06Why do we need to focus on those methods and strategies?
  • 10:09So on the next slide, I highlight an example
  • 10:11that shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.
  • 10:14I think COVID has really highlighted the importance
  • 10:17of thinking about implementation.
  • 10:19It's not enough to just think about what intervention.
  • 10:22So we saw with COVID that it wasn't enough
  • 10:26to just come up with a vaccine.
  • 10:28While that was phenomenal and I mean just an amazing feat
  • 10:33of science that we had these highly effective vaccines.
  • 10:37As you see on the next slide, and as you well remember,
  • 10:41the rollout was slow and complicated.
  • 10:45Anxiety was growing, shots were slow to reach arms
  • 10:48as those final steps of ensuring vaccine delivery
  • 10:51were left to beleaguered states.
  • 10:54And I think on the next slide,
  • 10:56you'll see that Dr. Ashish Jha, who's now dean
  • 10:59of the Brown University School of Public Health
  • 11:02really nicely articulated the problem.
  • 11:04And that was that the federal government saw their role
  • 11:07as getting vaccines to the states
  • 11:10without considering what support states would need
  • 11:12to get vaccines to the people.
  • 11:14And this type of problem, as you all know,
  • 11:16is not unique to COVID-19.
  • 11:20So on the next slide, you'll see that the promise
  • 11:22of any effective innovation that our science delivers
  • 11:26can only be fully realized through its use
  • 11:28by a range of stakeholders and attending to a range
  • 11:32of different types of barriers held by those stakeholders.
  • 11:35So while the vaccine was highly desired,
  • 11:37there was still a significant portion,
  • 11:39and continues to be a significant portion of the population,
  • 11:42who continues to refuse to take it.
  • 11:44So how do we deliver our innovations most effectively?
  • 11:50Is it, A, not thinking about implementation?
  • 11:53B, thinking about implementation with a plan
  • 11:55informed by intuition?
  • 11:57Or C, having a plan informed
  • 11:59by empirical evidence, the signs of implementation?
  • 12:03So too often we don't focus on thinking about
  • 12:05and generating the necessary evidence
  • 12:07to inform implementation.
  • 12:10And on the next slide, I think this won't be new to you,
  • 12:14but what this slide illustrates is what happens
  • 12:16if we don't also focus on implementation.
  • 12:19And Donna's center highlights this as well, noting this gap.
  • 12:23But what this displays to give you the story
  • 12:27behind that 17 year gap, these are findings of a study
  • 12:31from 2000 by Andrew Balas and Sue Boren
  • 12:34that asked the question, let's assume that the end product
  • 12:37of our research is simply a high-impact publication,
  • 12:40an RCT on the effectiveness of an innovation.
  • 12:43What happens next if we're not thinking about implementation
  • 12:46and not attending to it?
  • 12:48So what you see in the middle of the slide
  • 12:50is the rough publication pathway from publication
  • 12:53of our original research to implementation,
  • 12:56which they defined in this paper as 50% uptake.
  • 13:00So on the left side of the slide you see all the ways
  • 13:02we lose valuable evidence and on the right side
  • 13:05it estimates about how long it takes
  • 13:07to get through each one of these steps.
  • 13:10And on the next slide, you see the punchline
  • 13:12that it takes 17 years for only 14%
  • 13:16of original research to benefit patients.
  • 13:19So it shouldn't be the case that so little
  • 13:20takes so long and that's the time
  • 13:22to reach just half of the people who could benefit.
  • 13:25We need to do a better job.
  • 13:28And on the next slide, just wanted to mention,
  • 13:31Balas and Boren looked at a range
  • 13:32of healthcare interventions,
  • 13:34but specifically for cancer control,
  • 13:36this time lag is not much better,
  • 13:38as you can see from this recent review.
  • 13:43So on the next slide,
  • 13:44and as you saw with the COVID-19 vaccine example,
  • 13:47the problem really goes beyond the strength
  • 13:49of the evidence for effectiveness.
  • 13:51An intervention is going to be only as good as how
  • 13:54and whether it is adopted by the different systems
  • 13:56within different communities and that we can identify
  • 13:59the relevant practitioners who can then be trained
  • 14:02to deliver the intervention.
  • 14:04But we can't stop with training and education.
  • 14:07I've often seen a lot of applications
  • 14:09that are simply focused on training,
  • 14:11thinking education will be enough, but we have a history
  • 14:13and we know this, that training is not enough,
  • 14:15because we have a history of training providers
  • 14:17where there isn't then a way to come back from that training
  • 14:20and incorporate the intervention into routine practice.
  • 14:23So we need to think about the barriers to doing that,
  • 14:26attending to those, and making sure we also consider
  • 14:29the needed supports to ensure that delivery and integration.
  • 14:33And we need to make sure that once those trained providers
  • 14:36are able to deliver the intervention
  • 14:38and have the needed supports,
  • 14:40that they can also reach all those people
  • 14:42who could potentially benefit from it.
  • 14:45So on the next slide,
  • 14:46and I don't believe this is the next slide,
  • 14:49the next slide is, even one more,
  • 14:53even if we get halfway there at each of these steps,
  • 14:56not accounting for issues with access, adherence, dosage,
  • 14:59and maintenance, we are down to just a fraction
  • 15:02of the benefit that we thought we were going to have
  • 15:03with that promising intervention.
  • 15:06And we need to make sure that we don't assume these steps
  • 15:08are going to happen by themselves.
  • 15:12So how can we accelerate the time it takes
  • 15:14for our evidence to be implemented?
  • 15:16On the next slide, you can see here,
  • 15:19on the left side, you see effective interventions
  • 15:22such as vaccines, technologies, and treatments.
  • 15:25On the right side of the slide, you see our goal
  • 15:27to decrease the burden of disease or cancer.
  • 15:30And in the middle, you see some reasons why there's a gap
  • 15:33from the intervention to its intended effect.
  • 15:35It's that challenge of implementation.
  • 15:37So interventions are often underused and overused
  • 15:41and this has been highlighted during the COVID pandemic,
  • 15:43of course, but as similarly true as those of you
  • 15:45in chronic diseases, it being known this is also true
  • 15:48for cancer control measures
  • 15:50and other chronic disease measures.
  • 15:53And some reasons for that implementation gap
  • 15:55include insufficient training, infrastructure, governance,
  • 15:58and policies to provide the needed supports
  • 16:01to deliver interventions.
  • 16:03On the next slide,
  • 16:04you can see that through implementation science
  • 16:08we can understand those implementation barriers,
  • 16:11and develop, and importantly develop and test,
  • 16:14strategies to overcome those barriers.
  • 16:17So on the final slide, on the next slide,
  • 16:20final slide of this picture, if you advance one more,
  • 16:26how do we know if those strategies are working?
  • 16:30As you will find out, here we go.
  • 16:33Those strategies should improve the feasibility
  • 16:36and acceptability of an intervention.
  • 16:39Ensure delivery is cost-effective
  • 16:41and can reach as many people as possible, ensure fidelity
  • 16:45so that the intervention works as it's intended,
  • 16:47that we can see high rates of uptake
  • 16:50and sustain the intervention over time.
  • 16:52So these are really critical outcomes that we seek
  • 16:55to advance through implementation science
  • 16:57and that our strategies are intended to improve,
  • 17:00to ensure that we can promote the adoption and integration
  • 17:04of interventions into practice
  • 17:07by developing and testing strategies
  • 17:09to advance these implementation outcomes,
  • 17:12and generating evidence on these strategies
  • 17:14which can improve our ability to ultimately decrease
  • 17:17the burden of cancer
  • 17:18through effective data-driven implementation.
  • 17:22On the next slide, I just wanted to give you an example
  • 17:24of what this looks like in practice.
  • 17:27And I realize many of you may be interested
  • 17:30in global health.
  • 17:31So I pulled two examples of studies that NCI funded
  • 17:35and that's the example of testing a strategy,
  • 17:39a general strategy, of task shifting to address the barrier
  • 17:43of limited access to cancer control intervention.
  • 17:45So task shifting is a broad strategy to enhance access
  • 17:50through decentralization of care,
  • 17:52and we funded these two studies to test specific types
  • 17:55of task-shifting strategies to increase the uptake
  • 17:58of different cancer control interventions
  • 18:00in two LMIC countries.
  • 18:03So interestingly both found a threefold increase in uptake
  • 18:07with these two different approaches,
  • 18:09suggesting that this strategy of task-shifting
  • 18:12can be broadly effective to address a range
  • 18:14of global cancer control implementation challenges.
  • 18:20So on the next slide, I just wanna clarify
  • 18:22that task shifting is one example,
  • 18:25but there are a whole host of implementation strategies
  • 18:28that have been identified, and tested, and developed,
  • 18:31and studied in the literature,
  • 18:33you see these nine categories,
  • 18:36but these categories were actually grouping,
  • 18:39I think it was about 73 different strategies
  • 18:42that through a systematic review had been identified.
  • 18:48And this paper from Byron Powell et al. in 2015
  • 18:54talks about those 73 strategies
  • 18:56and these different categories.
  • 18:59But just to give you a sense of what these things are,
  • 19:01these include things like strategies to educate
  • 19:03and train practitioners, as I've mentioned,
  • 19:06as well as strategies to ensure that those practitioners
  • 19:09can incorporate the intervention into the workflow
  • 19:13and integrate it into community settings,
  • 19:15providing that interactive or technical assistance,
  • 19:20strategies to support fidelity,
  • 19:23and other supports for clinicians.
  • 19:26Also at the front end,
  • 19:27really ensuring stakeholder buy-in, building relationships
  • 19:31among stakeholders as needed, engaging consumers,
  • 19:35and importantly, financial strategies,
  • 19:39as well as thinking about whether there might be a need
  • 19:41to change the infrastructure to deliver the intervention.
  • 19:45So how would you select these range of strategies?
  • 19:48And in your research proposals, in particular,
  • 19:50it will be really dependent on what barriers
  • 19:55you are seeking to overcome,
  • 19:57what resources you are able to leverage,
  • 19:59and the critical implementers or other stakeholders
  • 20:02who you are seeking to affect.
  • 20:07So on the next slide you'll see in terms of thinking
  • 20:11about who those stakeholders are in implementation science,
  • 20:15we recognize that intervention and innovation delivery
  • 20:19is really context-dependent
  • 20:21and there are a range of multilevel factors
  • 20:23that can influence that.
  • 20:25And so on the next slide,
  • 20:28engaging stakeholders at all of these levels.
  • 20:31So thinking beyond that relationship between a provider
  • 20:33and a consumer, but also taking into account
  • 20:37the organization in which that provider is working,
  • 20:39the community in which that organization exists,
  • 20:42and what higher-level policies may be needed
  • 20:45to put in place in order for those things to be possible.
  • 20:51And when we've historically ignored these levels,
  • 20:53we often leave out populations
  • 20:55who don't have as good access to care.
  • 20:57So this is really critical in thinking about equity as well.
  • 21:00How do we best get organizational change?
  • 21:02How do we best get communities and states
  • 21:04to support implementation of these interventions?
  • 21:08And so it is particularly important to engage stakeholders
  • 21:10at all of these levels to build the evidence base
  • 21:13to support implementation at each of these levels.
  • 21:17So on the next slide, I had mentioned earlier
  • 21:21the distinction, how we define implementation science,
  • 21:25and the component parts of implementation science.
  • 21:29So this is how we think of it at NCI
  • 21:32and these definitions come from
  • 21:33our trans-NIH funding opportunities,
  • 21:36which I'll talk about in a few slides.
  • 21:38But we see implementation science broadly
  • 21:40as bridging the gap between research, and practice,
  • 21:42and policy by building a knowledge base
  • 21:45on how evidence can be most effectively communicated
  • 21:48and integrated into practice.
  • 21:50And so for the purposes of our funding announcements,
  • 21:53we break it down into these two different components
  • 21:56where dissemination research is the study
  • 21:58of the targeted distribution of information
  • 22:01and how best to spread or sustain knowledge and evidence.
  • 22:04Whereas implementation research is focused on
  • 22:06what strategies can best facilitate the adoption
  • 22:10and integration of evidence into a given practice.
  • 22:14So on the next slide, I just wanna break down
  • 22:16a little bit further.
  • 22:17The goal of dissemination research is really to understand
  • 22:20how, when, by whom, and under what circumstances
  • 22:23evidence most effectively spreads focusing on all the stages
  • 22:27of evidence from its creation to its reception.
  • 22:30And these are important steps that we often jump over.
  • 22:34So in the next slide,
  • 22:37focusing more on the implementation research
  • 22:40and what we try to draw contrast from what you typically see
  • 22:44in effectiveness trials, which tend to focus on the what,
  • 22:47what intervention can improve health outcomes?
  • 22:50And most studies assume that if we focus on the what
  • 22:53we will get the answers that we need,
  • 22:55what do we need to do for the these individuals
  • 22:58in this population to improve a range of health outcomes?
  • 23:01But we often jump over, through doing this,
  • 23:04we jump over this important middle
  • 23:06which is seen on the next slide.
  • 23:08And that's the question of how,
  • 23:11how can we ensure those interventions are delivered?
  • 23:14So what are those implementation strategies
  • 23:17that will support our ability
  • 23:19to deliver those interventions?
  • 23:21And you can see here in the implementation outcomes
  • 23:23that I had mentioned earlier,
  • 23:25those outcomes that those strategies
  • 23:27are intended to improve.
  • 23:29And so how do we know those strategies are working,
  • 23:32in implementation science we're really focused on
  • 23:34understanding what strategies, what methods
  • 23:37can improve implementation
  • 23:43and focusing on the implementation of something
  • 23:46that is evidence-based.
  • 23:47So for those of you who are thinking about implementation,
  • 23:52it's very important that this really is the science
  • 23:54of implementing evidence.
  • 23:57It's also increasingly I brought up de-implementation.
  • 24:01We're also interested in thinking about
  • 24:03where it may not be an evidence-based intervention,
  • 24:05but something is being implemented
  • 24:07that is not evidence-based, then you would flip it,
  • 24:09and it would be implementation strategies
  • 24:12to reduce the use of those things.
  • 24:16Just wanted to mention that as an aside
  • 24:18because that is something
  • 24:19that we are also very interested in.
  • 24:22So by focusing here we see this knock on benefit
  • 24:25of improving service outcomes and health outcomes.
  • 24:30So, on the next slide,
  • 24:33just reiterating what we mean by those strategies,
  • 24:36it's really developing and testing,
  • 24:38here are a range of strategies that have been studied
  • 24:42but focusing again on that question of what are the barriers
  • 24:45that you're observing for your evidence-based intervention
  • 24:48or innovation, whatever it is that you're trying
  • 24:50to implement, understanding why it's not being implemented
  • 24:55or perhaps in some cases, you see in certain places
  • 24:58it's being implemented very well
  • 24:59and you wanna understand why that might be,
  • 25:03and then trying to overcome those barriers.
  • 25:06So on the next couple slides I just wanna mention
  • 25:10that in implementation science,
  • 25:13a lot of this work really hinges on theories, frameworks,
  • 25:15and models.
  • 25:16So I'm gonna review just a few.
  • 25:18And the reason why these are valuable
  • 25:20and as an epidemiologist, I was not trained in theories,
  • 25:23frameworks, and models, but I've come to appreciate,
  • 25:25I mean we learned about DAGs, the directed acyclic graphs
  • 25:28because we need some sort of basis to inform
  • 25:32what variables we include in our regression models.
  • 25:37But as Donna mentioned,
  • 25:39this is also very much a social sciences,
  • 25:41behavioral science, and implementation science
  • 25:44is truly a transdisciplinary science,
  • 25:46and I think epidemiologists are a real asset for the field.
  • 25:51But in terms of thinking about,
  • 25:53in terms of developing measurement methods,
  • 25:56but in terms of understanding what are those barriers,
  • 25:58I think that that's where social and behavioral scientists
  • 26:01can really help us.
  • 26:03Through these theories and frameworks
  • 26:05is understanding what are those drivers.
  • 26:08So here you see one of the oldest theories in the field,
  • 26:12Roger's Diffusion of Innovations theory,
  • 26:14which actually comes from agronomy.
  • 26:16And in fact, because implementation science
  • 26:18and health is a relatively new field,
  • 26:21a lot of our theories, and frameworks, and methods
  • 26:24are borrowed from other fields.
  • 26:26And so in this case, what Everett Rogers highlighted
  • 26:30was that what influences our ability to adopt and deliver
  • 26:38is not just the characteristics of the intervention itself
  • 26:41but also the organizational characteristics,
  • 26:44the environmental context.
  • 26:45And those are the types of things that can influence
  • 26:49or impede our ability to adopt and implement something.
  • 26:53So on the next slide, this is the consolidated framework
  • 26:57for implementation research.
  • 26:59Those of you who are less new to the field
  • 27:02I'm sure are very familiar with this.
  • 27:04But this was actually developed in 2009
  • 27:07from Laura Dan Schroeder at the VA and colleagues
  • 27:11where they identified a range of constructs of categories,
  • 27:17which you can see are similar
  • 27:18to what Everett Rogers laid out.
  • 27:20There's the inner setting, and the outer setting,
  • 27:22as well as the intervention characteristics.
  • 27:24And I realize this graph is a little bit confusing
  • 27:26so I'm gonna take a moment to walk through it
  • 27:28'cause I actually think it's popular for a reason.
  • 27:32I think they really do a great job of describing the range
  • 27:36of constructs that can influence our ability to implement.
  • 27:41And a few things that they add
  • 27:44to what Everett Rogers had posited,
  • 27:46as you see on the left side of the slide,
  • 27:49the intervention as unadapted.
  • 27:52And so we think of interventions
  • 27:53as having their core components
  • 27:55and that's what you need to ensure fidelity.
  • 27:58But there's also an adaptable periphery
  • 28:01and on the left side, you see it doesn't quite fit.
  • 28:03There's some white space there.
  • 28:06But this bottom part that they added
  • 28:07is this critical iterative process of planning,
  • 28:12of engaging stakeholders, of implementing and iterating,
  • 28:17of assessing your ability to implement
  • 28:20and testing those strategies.
  • 28:22The hope is that you can get to the right side of the slide
  • 28:25where now you have an adapted intervention
  • 28:28that fits much better into the context
  • 28:31in which it is delivered.
  • 28:32Understanding that both that inner and outer context
  • 28:36are critical.
  • 28:37And what's really nice is there's a whole website
  • 28:39for CFIR that describes all of these constructs
  • 28:43and they're also SIRC,
  • 28:47the Society for Implementation Research Collaboration,
  • 28:50they've created, unfortunately it's behind a paywall,
  • 28:54but there are a whole host of measures
  • 28:56that have been developed, validated,
  • 28:59and tested to measure these constructs as well.
  • 29:02So I think that's one reason
  • 29:03why this is very popular framework.
  • 29:05You don't have to invent these things from scratch.
  • 29:08There are existing tools to measure these constructs
  • 29:11to understand what those barriers are
  • 29:13and perhaps what their relative weights are
  • 29:16to help you decide on
  • 29:17where you can most appropriately intervene.
  • 29:20So on the next slide, last, oh
  • 29:27and I wanted to mention also the re-aim framework,
  • 29:30which is another popular framework in the field.
  • 29:33It's often been used as an evaluation framework,
  • 29:35but I think it nicely highlights what are the key questions
  • 29:37in implementation science.
  • 29:39So beyond the effectiveness,
  • 29:41how do I know my intervention is effective?
  • 29:44It's also focusing on
  • 29:45how do I develop organizational support
  • 29:47to deliver my intervention, the implementation,
  • 29:50how do I ensure the intervention is delivered properly
  • 29:54and that maintenance, how do I incorporate the intervention
  • 29:57so it is delivered over the long term?
  • 30:00And finally, how do I reach the targeted population?
  • 30:02So re-aim is another framework in the field
  • 30:06that was developed for the field
  • 30:08and also has a website with extensive guidance
  • 30:12on the use of this framework and measures.
  • 30:15So on the next slide, I wanted to move now
  • 30:21to what opportunities and priorities
  • 30:24in implementation science at NCI.
  • 30:27So first starting with the trans-NIH funding opportunities
  • 30:31that NCI leads on the next slide.
  • 30:35And so these are called the Dissemination
  • 30:37and Implementation Research in Health,
  • 30:40PAR, that's program announcement with review.
  • 30:43So that R is that dedicated study section.
  • 30:46If folks were here at the very beginning of the call
  • 30:49when Melinda and I were talking about review committees.
  • 30:52So applications submitted to these funding opportunities
  • 30:56which do include 22 institute centers
  • 30:59and offices across the NIH
  • 31:01participate in these funding opportunities.
  • 31:04I believe I can share with you that while they will,
  • 31:07the current versions that are published expire in May, 2022,
  • 31:11you can expect that those will be renewed.
  • 31:14So those will continue.
  • 31:16And to date, we've funded well over 300 grants
  • 31:19across the NIH just in the last decade
  • 31:23through these funding opportunities.
  • 31:25And that review committee I mentioned,
  • 31:27it used to be called DIRH, our Center for Scientific Review
  • 31:32at the NIH recently went through a process
  • 31:36of reviewing the study sections
  • 31:38and coming up with new study sections
  • 31:40or revising somewhat how the study sections are
  • 31:43to stay up to date with the science.
  • 31:45And this is a process CSR goes through periodically.
  • 31:48So now DIRH has become SIHH,
  • 31:52which stands for the Science of Implementation
  • 31:54in Health and Healthcare.
  • 31:56There are an additional four review committees
  • 31:59that were newly created that have overlapping interest
  • 32:03with implementation science,
  • 32:05which basically means just additional expertise.
  • 32:08So if you submit through these funding opportunities,
  • 32:11but for some reason, it is not assigned to SIHH,
  • 32:15there can be a few reasons why that might happen.
  • 32:17Feel free to reach out to me
  • 32:18and we can talk about that another time.
  • 32:22But all of these committees should have the capacity
  • 32:26to review implementation science grants.
  • 32:28And just also as a side note, for those of you familiar
  • 32:31with the review committee, SIHH is almost entirely
  • 32:34the same members as DIRH, the chair is the same.
  • 32:37So it has been a pretty seamless transition.
  • 32:41On the next slide, for those of you unfamiliar
  • 32:46with these funding opportunities, I did want to highlight
  • 32:49what the purpose of these are,
  • 32:51which is to support innovative approaches to identifying,
  • 32:55understanding, and developing strategies
  • 32:58for overcoming barriers to the adoption, adaptation,
  • 33:02integration, scale-up, and sustainability
  • 33:04of evidence-based interventions.
  • 33:06And I had mentioned earlier
  • 33:08also an interest in de-implementation.
  • 33:10So conversely, as we recognize there's a benefit
  • 33:14in understanding circumstances that create a need to stop
  • 33:17or reduce the use of interventions that are ineffective,
  • 33:20unproven, low value, or harmful.
  • 33:23And these funding opportunities,
  • 33:24in addition to studying those strategies to implement
  • 33:27or de-implement, we also seek studies that advance methods
  • 33:33in our field as well as measures.
  • 33:37So on the next slide, I just wanted to give you
  • 33:40some example research questions
  • 33:42from the funding opportunities, but I do encourage you
  • 33:44to take a look at these funding opportunities
  • 33:47and take a look again after, at the end of February
  • 33:52when we hope that they will be reissued.
  • 33:54So you can see slightly updated version of these,
  • 33:57but essentially, these are focused on understanding
  • 34:01what factors influence the creation, packaging, transmission
  • 34:04and reception of valid health research knowledge.
  • 34:07That's the dissemination research questions
  • 34:10as well as understanding how do we adapt our interventions
  • 34:13to best fit within specific contexts or settings,
  • 34:17what strategies best support uptake in sustainability,
  • 34:20also strategies to ensure scale-up and sustainability.
  • 34:25And then finally, that de-implementation question.
  • 34:29So on the next slide I just wanted to very briefly mention
  • 34:33that there are, on our website,
  • 34:37which I'll show you at the end,
  • 34:39we do have examples of sample grant applications
  • 34:42that have been successfully funded through these.
  • 34:45And this is one of the most popular websites on our website
  • 34:54because it's nice, not only do you have the abstract
  • 34:58which anyone can access in reporter,
  • 34:59but we had about a dozen investigators
  • 35:03generously agree to have their full application,
  • 35:06the research strategy, and specific aims
  • 35:09also made available publicly.
  • 35:11So you can see here and on the next slide
  • 35:13a range of sample grants that are available
  • 35:18and that really are spanning a range of different topics
  • 35:22from healthcare, public health, sustainability,
  • 35:28de-implementation, both in global and domestic settings.
  • 35:34So on the next slide, in terms of priorities,
  • 35:37just generally, I would like to mention for those of you
  • 35:40who aren't aware, well, NCI is the one institute at NIH
  • 35:45that has a separate congressional line item since,
  • 35:49and our director is a presidential appointee.
  • 35:54And so because of that we do submit each year an annual plan
  • 35:58and budget proposal to Congress that needs to be approved.
  • 36:01And so for this fiscal year that just ended,
  • 36:06implementation science was recognized as a key priority area
  • 36:10by the NCI.
  • 36:13And on the next slide, you can see,
  • 36:15and I think this really launched interest
  • 36:17across the divisions and centers within the NCI
  • 36:22and so our NCI Center for Global Health,
  • 36:26they recently hired a new director
  • 36:30and released this new strategic plan for the next four years
  • 36:34where implementation science was also highlighted
  • 36:37as a key priority area.
  • 36:39So on the next slide, I just wanted to mention this,
  • 36:43this is a real opportunity as we are thinking across the NIH
  • 36:47and NCI of the importance of addressing inequities.
  • 36:51And here the simple graph from the WHO really highlights
  • 36:55how those global inequities in cancer control.
  • 36:59And so on the next slide you can see, oh,
  • 37:04and so just as an aside, this was a systematic review
  • 37:09not just in cancer but across a range of health issues
  • 37:12focusing on studies that have been published
  • 37:17on implementing health interventions in LMICs.
  • 37:19And these weren't implementation studies necessarily,
  • 37:22these were just all studies in literature
  • 37:25where they were looking at health interventions in LMICs.
  • 37:28And what was interesting about this review
  • 37:32is that relatively few, painfully few, only 14 studies,
  • 37:38if you look at that smallest circle at the bottom,
  • 37:40actually measured implementation outcomes.
  • 37:43So really we saw this as a huge missed opportunity
  • 37:48to be studying implementation in the context
  • 37:51of global cancer control.
  • 37:54And so on the next slide you can see that
  • 37:59the Center for Global Health
  • 38:01has issued two funding opportunities.
  • 38:04One is a Notice of Special Interest for Dissemination
  • 38:07and Implementation Science in Low Resource Environments.
  • 38:12And those are, NOSIs are Notices of Special Interests
  • 38:18that are tied to an existing funding opportunity.
  • 38:21So in this case, these are tied to those dissemination
  • 38:24and implementation research
  • 38:25and health program announcements.
  • 38:28And then most recently, the Center for Global Health
  • 38:32issued a UO1 Clinical Trial Optional, Implementation Science
  • 38:38for Cancer Control in People Living with HIV
  • 38:41in Low and Middle-Income Countries.
  • 38:43So given that Center for Global Health,
  • 38:47one of their main strategic goals
  • 38:48is to advance implementation science and cancer control
  • 38:52in Low and Middle-Income countries,
  • 38:54I would stay tuned for additional funding opportunities
  • 38:58that may come out.
  • 39:00And I'm happy to talk about any of these as well.
  • 39:04So on the next slide I wanted to mention
  • 39:07in addition to global and global is a part of this,
  • 39:11the NCI launched a consortium
  • 39:14for cancer implementation science
  • 39:16and I remember one of your colleagues,
  • 39:18Steve Bernstein was at that initial launch meeting.
  • 39:23And so this was a consortium of implementation scientists
  • 39:26and cancer control researchers identifying
  • 39:29key areas that the field could really advance
  • 39:35and we could all benefit from advancing those areas.
  • 39:38So you can see here the CCIS development of public goods
  • 39:44on the bottom left of the slide.
  • 39:47And on the next slide, you can see examples
  • 39:51of what those different areas were.
  • 39:55So one was focused on enhancing community participation
  • 39:59and more broadly, stakeholder engagement.
  • 40:02One is focused on advancing economic evaluation
  • 40:06and really understanding not just the cost-effectiveness
  • 40:09of the intervention but the cost of the strategies
  • 40:12and how do we measure those costs.
  • 40:14And there are relatively few good measures for that.
  • 40:19In fact, none to date have been validated measures
  • 40:23of implementation costs.
  • 40:24So there's been a thriving community of economists,
  • 40:29healthcare, health service researchers,
  • 40:31and implementation scientists working together
  • 40:33to try to develop guidance for the field on doing that.
  • 40:36Also a focus on policy implementation science
  • 40:40and context and equity.
  • 40:42And as you can see in the small print,
  • 40:43additional areas that were identified as key priorities
  • 40:48where those public goods are forthcoming.
  • 40:51So if you were to click on those pluses
  • 40:53by each of those four areas I mentioned,
  • 40:57on the next slide you can see for example
  • 41:00with the economics and costs group, there is a link
  • 41:05to a new collection of papers that was just published
  • 41:09in BMC, and it's a collection
  • 41:12because it's not only in one journal
  • 41:14but it's across several BMC journals.
  • 41:16So implementation science
  • 41:17and implementation science communications.
  • 41:21And these are a series of papers that are providing
  • 41:23that guidance I had mentioned around measuring cost
  • 41:26in implementation science.
  • 41:28On the next slide you can see resources for stakeholder
  • 41:33and community engagement.
  • 41:34There's a whole list on the next,
  • 41:41I think somebody is not on mute,
  • 41:43but I'm almost done.
  • 41:51The next slide.
  • 41:53<v Donna>Gila, can you mute everybody?</v>
  • 42:05<v ->Oh, I see Amaka joined who I know from Aortic.</v>
  • 42:12So on the next slide, that community engagement
  • 42:16and stakeholder engagement, if you go one more, William,
  • 42:20you'll see that that group created this phenomenal resource
  • 42:26on stakeholder, and community engagement literature,
  • 42:30and best practices and measures of doing that.
  • 42:32So on the next slide, you can see
  • 42:36what are the contents of that resource.
  • 42:39Key readings focused on health equity
  • 42:42and community engagement in implementation science,
  • 42:44the rationale for doing it,
  • 42:46frameworks for doing it, and assessing, and measuring it.
  • 42:51And so that's a really rich guide
  • 42:54if you're interested in focusing on that aspect.
  • 42:58On the next slide,
  • 43:01this gets to the policy implementation science
  • 43:03and I did see that there may be several of you
  • 43:08or many of you who are really interested
  • 43:10in advancing policy implementation science.
  • 43:13And so there was this recent commentary
  • 43:17addressing that in particular
  • 43:20as a way to address social determinants of health.
  • 43:22We also had Karen Emmonds from Harvard come and work with us
  • 43:28over the last two years to really build out this area.
  • 43:31And one of the things that she did
  • 43:34was help curate this fantastic series of webinars.
  • 43:38I think there were six in total, here are four of them,
  • 43:41they've all been archived.
  • 43:42So something that you may be interested in exploring.
  • 43:49And so those are just some of the key priority areas
  • 43:52that I wanted to mention.
  • 43:54But then finally, where can you learn more?
  • 43:58So on the next slide, and the next slide after that.
  • 44:04So in addition to those policy webinars,
  • 44:07we do have a whole host of webinars,
  • 44:09two different webinar series.
  • 44:11All of these webinars are archived.
  • 44:13Some of those include, from years past,
  • 44:17a focus on different methodologies, measurement,
  • 44:22the use of frameworks.
  • 44:23And upcoming our next webinar at the end of November
  • 44:28is focused again on economic evaluation
  • 44:31because of that recent publication of those collection
  • 44:34of papers which continues to grow.
  • 44:36Right now we have two published in that collection,
  • 44:39two forthcoming any day now, and an additional six
  • 44:45that are forthcoming in the coming months.
  • 44:49And so in addition to the webinars, I did wanna mention
  • 44:52for those of you new to implementation science
  • 44:55and hopefully, I've convinced you
  • 44:57that you may wanna learn more, on the next slide,
  • 45:01you can see that NCI has been hosting a training institute
  • 45:05in implementation science.
  • 45:08And here you can see the main modules
  • 45:10for this training institute.
  • 45:12It historically had been an institute
  • 45:15where initially was a residential program,
  • 45:18five-day intensive residential program.
  • 45:21Then we moved to a hybrid model
  • 45:23where we would do three months online
  • 45:26where people could just integrate it
  • 45:28into their everyday lives but then a two-person
  • 45:31in day meeting.
  • 45:33And now with COVID, it's been completely virtual
  • 45:36but also it has been a highly competitive program
  • 45:40and we've wanted to be able to train more people
  • 45:43than we can necessarily accommodate at our NCI offices.
  • 45:47So we have made it open-access
  • 45:49and all the modules now are available
  • 45:51as well as the readings.
  • 45:53The one thing that you don't get from the open-access
  • 45:57and during those three months of the online
  • 46:02you get feedback from faculty on your proposal.
  • 46:07So it's really an opportunity to develop a proposal
  • 46:10through this training program.
  • 46:13But thankfully you have a whole team at NCI
  • 46:17and program directors across the NCI and NIH
  • 46:21who can help you as you're developing your proposal.
  • 46:24So I would encourage you as you are developing proposals
  • 46:28for implementation science or if you are
  • 46:31and when you are to reach out
  • 46:32to program staff often and early.
  • 46:35So on the next slide, I did just wanna mention
  • 46:38at least for NCI, on the next slide,
  • 46:42we do have a pretty user-friendly search function
  • 46:47where you can look through at the division of cancer control
  • 46:51and population sciences grant opportunities,
  • 46:54we have a filter where implementation science
  • 46:56is one of those filters.
  • 46:58So in addition to the funding opportunities I mentioned,
  • 47:01you can see which other funding opportunities might exist
  • 47:05that could align with the specific topics
  • 47:07that you're focused on.
  • 47:08We do have one for example,
  • 47:10that's specifically on de-implementation in cancer screening
  • 47:14for the overuse of screening.
  • 47:16And lastly, on the last slide, I just wanted to leave you
  • 47:21with a link to our team's website and to remind you
  • 47:23that I am just one of a fantastic group of folks at the NCI
  • 47:29on the implementation science team.
  • 47:31You can see there in the back left is David Chambers,
  • 47:36our director for implementation science,
  • 47:39as well as Wynne Norton, April Oh, Cindy Vincent
  • 47:43who are other critical members of our team.
  • 47:49So thanks, I hope that was helpful.
  • 47:51And I was hoping we'd have at least 10 minutes
  • 47:53for questions.
  • 47:54So I hope, Donna, we can use some of that time
  • 47:57for questions if folks have questions.
  • 48:03<v ->Yeah, so perfect timing</v>
  • 48:08and it's great to see the overview
  • 48:12and it's so interesting that some of the slides
  • 48:15that you have shown, I also show in my class
  • 48:18and I'm guessing Luke Davis
  • 48:19who teaches our implementation science course here
  • 48:23probably uses some of these slides.
  • 48:24So there's so much common knowledge
  • 48:26and kind of perspective that I think we all share.
  • 48:29I see that Luke Davis has his hand up.
  • 48:31He is an implementation scientist focusing primarily
  • 48:36on HIV and tuberculosis,
  • 48:39particularly from the global health perspective.
  • 48:41And he's an associate faculty member of our center.
  • 48:45So Luke, what are your questions and comments?
  • 48:49<v ->Thank you, Donna, and thank you Gila for a great talk.</v>
  • 48:52Donna's right, I really do enjoy your slides
  • 48:54and a lot of the materials that you, and David,
  • 48:56and others have put together, they've been very helpful
  • 48:58in setting up our implementation science course
  • 49:00here at Yale.
  • 49:02As Donna mentioned,
  • 49:03I'm primarily a global health researcher,
  • 49:04but I wanted to ask you a general question
  • 49:06about grant strategy 'cause this is something
  • 49:08that's come up in my own work
  • 49:09and also in talking with other colleagues here at Yale
  • 49:12who are interested in putting in proposals
  • 49:14and I think the issue that arises
  • 49:17is that often one of the most common critiques, I think,
  • 49:20of any type of grant is that there's an interdependence
  • 49:22of the aims and in implementation science,
  • 49:24I think it's very common
  • 49:26that you may be thinking of adapting
  • 49:28or scaling-up intervention or an implementation strategy
  • 49:32in a new setting
  • 49:33and you don't yet have the intervention adapted.
  • 49:37And so often maybe aim one might be to adapt it
  • 49:40and aim two might be to evaluate it.
  • 49:41And that leads commonly to a critique
  • 49:43that the two aims are interdependent.
  • 49:45And I'm just curious how you would respond to that
  • 49:48from an implementation science perspective.
  • 49:50And then more practically when you're in that type
  • 49:52of situation, are you better off, say, pursuing an R21
  • 49:55and doing the adaptation in one grant,
  • 49:59and then pursuing the evaluation in another.
  • 50:01Thanks so much.
  • 50:02Really enjoyed your talk.
  • 50:04<v ->Very important question, Luke.</v>
  • 50:07<v ->Yes, excellent question</v>
  • 50:08and not the first time I've been asked.
  • 50:11Yeah, no, it's a great question.
  • 50:13I guess the first thing,
  • 50:15well, there's several first reactions I have to that
  • 50:18and one is, I think that one of the struggles is making sure
  • 50:24for each aim they have to have their own hypothesis.
  • 50:29They are each individual scientific aim.
  • 50:31So is it enough to just say you wanna adapt
  • 50:34the intervention in your aim?
  • 50:35I think part of it is understanding
  • 50:37what are the most effective ways
  • 50:39and you may hypothesize an effective way to adapt it.
  • 50:42So the use of different methods to do that
  • 50:45I think could be the focus.
  • 50:47But I think what we've seen more in terms of the challenge
  • 50:52of that interdependence has been where the first aim
  • 50:55is trying to understand the barriers
  • 50:58and you don't know then whether those barriers will be ones
  • 51:02that can be overcome for example,
  • 51:04or how that would influence your strategy.
  • 51:07So I think we often encourage investigators
  • 51:11to already have a clear sense
  • 51:13or already have a reasonably clear sense
  • 51:16of what the likely barriers might be.
  • 51:18But also given that implementation sciences really focused
  • 51:21on understanding context,
  • 51:23we understand that that's also a significant aspect
  • 51:27of the study.
  • 51:28So I think, if you go through those sample grants,
  • 51:33you'll see that, I think this is a nuanced challenge
  • 51:38because many of our grants that aim one, it does have to do
  • 51:41with adaptation or understanding barriers and context.
  • 51:44And I think part of it is how it is framed,
  • 51:47and how you can justify that this is needed,
  • 51:52and it will not, I think it's needed
  • 51:56because it's needed to make sure that you're tailoring
  • 52:01those strategies, that they are attentive.
  • 52:04But it's true that the more
  • 52:06you can have some preliminary evidence on the feasibility
  • 52:10and acceptability of those strategies,
  • 52:13and some preliminary evidence on those barriers
  • 52:15would be critical.
  • 52:16And I think that gets to your second question
  • 52:18of whether you go for the R21 or the R01.
  • 52:22I can't tell you how much preliminary evidence you need.
  • 52:25That is a tough one.
  • 52:27The answer is always, it depends,
  • 52:30but I think for a particular study,
  • 52:32and I think that those are the conversations
  • 52:34that presumably program directors,
  • 52:36program officers can help you figure out
  • 52:41as you're developing those aims pages.
  • 52:47<v Donna>Great.</v>
  • 52:48<v ->I hope that's helpful.</v>
  • 52:49Yeah, glad to talk more about that offline.
  • 52:50<v Luke>Yeah.</v>
  • 52:51Great.
  • 52:52Thank you.
  • 52:53<v ->Does anybody else in our audience have a question</v>
  • 52:57or comment they'd like to make?
  • 53:01Okay, well, Gila, I was wondering,
  • 53:06I'm kind of interested and I keep encouraging colleagues
  • 53:09that I work with to think about integrated approaches
  • 53:13to health promotion that might, let's say for example,
  • 53:17there's the PEN guidelines from WHO
  • 53:21for chronic disease prevention and control.
  • 53:24And it addresses the controllable cancers,
  • 53:27it addresses cardiometabolic diseases,
  • 53:30and I think it includes mental health disorders that have,
  • 53:34all of which have well-known evidence-based interventions
  • 53:38that probably need to be adapted to different contexts.
  • 53:41By the way, I should mention,
  • 53:42we do have quite a bit of global reach in our center
  • 53:45and there's people on this call from, at least from Nigeria
  • 53:49I can see, and also from Mexico.
  • 53:52So anyway, but then we have the problem with NIH
  • 53:56that a proposal has to be cancer
  • 53:59or it has to be mental health
  • 54:01or it has to be cardiovascular disease
  • 54:04when really probably the most sustainable,
  • 54:07when once somebody's in a center
  • 54:09or once a community health worker
  • 54:10is going to somebody's home,
  • 54:12why would they only focus on HPV vaccination
  • 54:16or taking a TB test,
  • 54:19it just isn't really the best thing for public health.
  • 54:21And how do you suggest that we address that
  • 54:24in terms of developing interventions
  • 54:27that are really integrated?
  • 54:31<v ->That's a visionary question.</v>
  • 54:34I think it's the next horizon and I can say,
  • 54:37I know this is an area
  • 54:38that David Chambers has been really pushing this concept of
  • 54:42how do we best bundle our margins?
  • 54:44And I think that's really critical,
  • 54:46especially, in global contexts, but oh yeah,
  • 54:51and I see that perhaps some of your tighter alum
  • 54:58can speak to that as well.
  • 55:01But no, I think absolutely that is really critical
  • 55:04and I think that is an area
  • 55:06that we are hoping to see advance.
  • 55:10<v ->But right now it isn't really an option.</v>
  • 55:13Do you agree?
  • 55:14For example, I'm a methodologist, so I work in cancer,
  • 55:18but I also work on HIV AIDS, and other areas,
  • 55:22and we're involved in implementation science work
  • 55:25in ending the AIDS epidemic domestically.
  • 55:27And we have a core, a technical support core,
  • 55:31for implementation science methods across the range
  • 55:34of qualitative, quantitative, and health economics.
  • 55:37Anyway, when we had our renewal, they wanted an innovation.
  • 55:41And so I suggested maybe thinking about integration
  • 55:45of HIV prevention and control with say some other issues
  • 55:52that people are facing.
  • 55:53And so because this particular core, and overall project,
  • 55:58and consortium is funded by NIMH and NIAD,
  • 56:02they said we could only integrate with substance abuse
  • 56:05and mental health.
  • 56:07<v ->Well, actually-</v>
  • 56:08<v ->Not in diabetes or obesity or cancer screening,</v>
  • 56:11that was like off the table.
  • 56:14<v ->Well, that is one challenge</v>
  • 56:16sometimes people bring up depending on the institute.
  • 56:18But you said the Center for Global Health
  • 56:21recently released as you know the U01
  • 56:24that's focused on cancer control
  • 56:25and populations living with HIV.
  • 56:27And so there, I think that opportunity,
  • 56:31that funding announcement, I think bundling is identified
  • 56:35as one of the key questions there
  • 56:37and how do you integrate it with HIV care,
  • 56:40how can you cancer control of HIV care.
  • 56:43<v ->Yeah.</v>
  • 56:47Great.
  • 56:50So any other comments?
  • 56:53We're a minute away from the hour.
  • 56:57Okay.
  • 56:58Well, thank you all for tuning in
  • 57:01and continuing with your work in implementation science
  • 57:05here at Yale and elsewhere.
  • 57:06And thank you, Dr. Neta, for such an interesting
  • 57:09and informative talk.
  • 57:11So have a great rest of your day everybody.
  • 57:14<v ->Thank you for inviting me</v>
  • 57:15and thank you to William for advancing my slides.
  • 57:16<v Luke>Bye.</v>
  • 57:19<v Donna>Bye-bye.</v>
  • 57:20<v Gila>Thanks, bye.</v>