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Climate Change and Health Initiative: J. Jason West

October 08, 2019
  • 00:00(students chattering)
  • 01:55- Okay, let's get started.
  • 02:04Let's get started.
  • 02:05Can you hear me okay at the back?
  • 02:07Yeah, okay, great.
  • 02:09So I'm Robert (mumbles) I'm a professor of epidemiology
  • 02:13in our Department of Environmental Health Sciences.
  • 02:16And I'm also the Faculty Director
  • 02:18of the Yellow Climate Change and Health Initiative.
  • 02:20And we're very pleased today as our first speaker
  • 02:24of this academic year to have Jason West,
  • 02:27who's from the Department of Environmental Sciences
  • 02:31and Engineering at the University of North Carolina School
  • 02:35of Public Health.
  • 02:36And we were just talking about how few
  • 02:40public health departments have engineering in the name
  • 02:43and how actually valuable it is to have engineers
  • 02:47within schools of public health, as hopefully,
  • 02:50I think you'll see when you see the work that Jason does.
  • 02:55So Jason, has a great publication record
  • 02:58he's published in the high impact journals like
  • 03:00Major Climate Change, and Nature Geoscience
  • 03:03and Environmental Health Perspectives.
  • 03:06He's also had funding from a variety of sources,
  • 03:09including the EPA has a the National Science Foundation,
  • 03:15and the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences.
  • 03:19And so he's got, as you know, he's gonna talk
  • 03:22to you today about connecting climate change,
  • 03:25air pollution, energy and human health.
  • 03:30(students applauding)
  • 03:34- So I'm really happy to be here today.
  • 03:36Thanks for the invitation.
  • 03:38I spent yesterday, an exciting day for me in New York City
  • 03:41for the climate week, and--
  • 03:44- Sorry, (mumbles) to just the lights a little bit.
  • 03:47- All right, yeah.
  • 03:48I was just gonna say, I was having a hard time in my mind,
  • 03:53justifying flying up here just to attend
  • 03:55a climate change event in New York.
  • 03:58I had thought instead of about maybe taking a sale
  • 04:02(students laughing)
  • 04:03but then I contacted Rob who had already invited me
  • 04:06and asked him if we could combine my trips.
  • 04:10And that worked out really nicely.
  • 04:11So Rob, if nothing else, I should thank you
  • 04:13for making me feel less guilty about flying.
  • 04:17Okay, so I'm gonna talk to you today really,
  • 04:21this is a talk not on one theme,
  • 04:24but I'll be talking about a lot of the work
  • 04:26that I in my lab is done over the past decade or so.
  • 04:30I'll motivate that in a minute by talking about
  • 04:34especially the human health angle,
  • 04:36that the work we do is really pretty interdisciplinary.
  • 04:39And I think you'll see that
  • 04:40so I work on climate change in air pollution.
  • 04:44My main entry point to climate change is
  • 04:46through atmospheric science, which is kinda my background.
  • 04:50But in particular, this interest in climate change
  • 04:54has kinda taken off in connecting climate change
  • 04:57with air pollution.
  • 04:58So as climate changes,
  • 04:59what will that mean for air pollution?
  • 05:01Or as we take the necessary steps to address climate change,
  • 05:04what would that mean for pollution and for health?
  • 05:07So those are a couple of the themes that are explored here.
  • 05:10I thought I'd start with this paper,
  • 05:12which Michelle (mumbles) here also contributed to.
  • 05:16That appeared a few years ago.
  • 05:19I and colleagues this, if you look at the list
  • 05:22of authors here, this is a purposeful combination of
  • 05:26air pollution scientists
  • 05:28and air pollution health effects scientists,
  • 05:29we all got together in a room and talked about
  • 05:32what were some of the big issues of our day
  • 05:35trying to take stock of what's known about air pollution
  • 05:37and health, and what are the big opportunities
  • 05:40for the future.
  • 05:41Some of our main conclusions I've pointed out here,
  • 05:46one is how important air pollution is
  • 05:48for global public health.
  • 05:50And what's been really instrumental in coming
  • 05:53to this understanding has been
  • 05:54the Global Burden of Disease Assessment.
  • 05:56So as I go along, through this presentation,
  • 05:59I'll show you some results from the
  • 06:00Global Burden of Disease Assessment
  • 06:02and show you how my lab is doing some work to contribute
  • 06:05to that assessment
  • 06:06by mapping global surface ozone concentrations.
  • 06:11Air pollution, it's health impacts our changing globally
  • 06:14and will change in ways interrelated with climate change.
  • 06:18We looked also at air pollution science,
  • 06:20which is making new possibilities through
  • 06:23new ways of measuring air pollutants,
  • 06:25measuring new chemical constituents that may be then
  • 06:28we could put in epidemiological models to find out
  • 06:31what component of air pollution is most
  • 06:33important for health.
  • 06:35We also have cheap sensors that can be widely deployed
  • 06:38and are being widely deployed,
  • 06:40providing a lot more information,
  • 06:42even if the quality of those measurements is poor.
  • 06:45We have satellites looking down at the world now
  • 06:48giving us information every day about air pollution
  • 06:51that's potentially useful for us.
  • 06:53And computer models and that's what I do
  • 06:56are becoming better for this kind of application too.
  • 07:00One of the reasons why I wanted to start off with this,
  • 07:02(mumbles) was we took some time in this article
  • 07:05to talk about the need for the air pollution science
  • 07:08community to work better and closer together
  • 07:11with people that work in air pollution,
  • 07:13health effects science.
  • 07:14So when I think back to when I was a graduate student,
  • 07:18I was firmly in the air pollution science world,
  • 07:21I was not exposed at all really to help.
  • 07:24And as I look out at even our air pollution science
  • 07:27meetings, those are changing that I now see
  • 07:29more presentations from health effects scientists
  • 07:32or people that are making this bridge
  • 07:35between air pollution science and health effects science.
  • 07:37So that's a healthy change,
  • 07:39but I think we have a long way to go still.
  • 07:41Okay, in that regard, and maybe some
  • 07:43of you will be interested to, in your career fill that void.
  • 07:46Okay, my plan for today is to
  • 07:50it's sort of the buckshot approach (mumbles)
  • 07:52I'll talk about a lot of different themes,
  • 07:54and we'll see if any of them stick with you.
  • 07:57But first, I was gonna talk about global ozone
  • 08:00and what drives global ozone changes?
  • 08:04This is more atmospheric science.
  • 08:05But the rest of the talk will be about,
  • 08:09about air pollution and climate and health.
  • 08:13So how many people die each year due
  • 08:15to exposure to ambient air pollution?
  • 08:18How can we best model global surfaces on distributions
  • 08:21that's for the Global Burden of Disease?
  • 08:23And I'll show you those results.
  • 08:24How will climate change affect global air pollution
  • 08:27and air pollution related deaths?
  • 08:29So now turning our attention to climate a little bit.
  • 08:33What are the trends in air pollution related deaths
  • 08:35focusing on the United States?
  • 08:37And the last question, if we slow down climate change,
  • 08:40what are the benefits that we would see
  • 08:42for air pollution and health, okay?
  • 08:46Good.
  • 08:48I'll talk a little bit about ozone.
  • 08:50So I'm guessing many of the students in here (mumbles)
  • 08:54from of a public health are studying public health
  • 08:57and maybe don't know a lot about ozone
  • 08:58so let me talk about that.
  • 08:59So ozones forming the atmosphere by an interaction of
  • 09:06non-methane volatile organic.
  • 09:07So organics that come from motor vehicles
  • 09:10from all kinds of different things, carbon monoxide as well.
  • 09:15Trees emit volatile organics,
  • 09:17those drive this cycle of radicals.
  • 09:19The other important ingredient is nitrogen oxides,
  • 09:23comes from motor vehicles and power plants
  • 09:25and heavy industries, in the presence of sunlight
  • 09:29gives us ozone.
  • 09:29So the three important ingredients are in organic
  • 09:34(mumbles) sunlight, and out of those chemical reactions,
  • 09:37we get ozone.
  • 09:39I'll be talking as well on the global scale.
  • 09:42And when we look at the global scale, these fast reacting
  • 09:46organics that are important in a place like Los Angeles
  • 09:50for producing ozone very fast because these react
  • 09:53on the order of hours are not very important than
  • 09:57on the global scale.
  • 09:58It's these more long live compounds.
  • 10:00So carbon monoxide is really an important
  • 10:02methane really important.
  • 10:03Okay, so methane is admitted in large quantities,
  • 10:07but it reacts so slowly contributes very little
  • 10:10to urban air pollution.
  • 10:11But on the global scale methane is one of the big drivers.
  • 10:15Okay, so and by the way, methane and ozone
  • 10:19are both greenhouse gases.
  • 10:22So going back several years, I had a line of research
  • 10:24looking at how emissions of these different precursors
  • 10:28would affect both methane and ozone thinking about
  • 10:31how do you control those, both from an air pollution point
  • 10:34of view and from a climate point of view, okay.
  • 10:37So as you motivate the first study here.
  • 10:41We're interested in here in
  • 10:44how global emissions are changing.
  • 10:47This shows global emissions of nitrogen oxide
  • 10:50one of those compounds that reacts to form ozone.
  • 10:54Globally, in 1950, and I'm gonna flash forward
  • 10:59by decade now, so in 1950, 1960, 1970 and 1980.
  • 11:05So by the time we got to 1980,
  • 11:06you see the emissions are dominated by the U.S and Europe.
  • 11:10The spatial distribution, this is the latitude
  • 11:12and they'll distribution on the right here,
  • 11:14that hasn't really changed as emissions grew.
  • 11:18But after that period, then this is 1990, 2000, 2010,
  • 11:24we see emissions going down
  • 11:27here in the U.S and Europe as
  • 11:29we've implemented air pollution controls.
  • 11:31And they've gone up pretty dramatically now
  • 11:33in China and India.
  • 11:34So the emission distribution is shifting southward.
  • 11:39This is interesting, and perhaps troubling,
  • 11:42because we understand from the point of view
  • 11:44of atmospheric science, that a ton of emissions closer
  • 11:47to the equator is expected to cause more ozone to be formed.
  • 11:51And so we're asking the question here, basically,
  • 11:55we'll focus on this period 1980 to 2010.
  • 11:58So 1980 years before we had this change in the spatial
  • 12:03distribution with emissions coming southward.
  • 12:07We're gonna separate out the importance of the magnitude
  • 12:10of the emission change versus the spatial distribution
  • 12:14of the emission change.
  • 12:15And the third ingredients here and the third factor
  • 12:19that's really important is the global methane change.
  • 12:22And we're gonna see how important each of those is
  • 12:25for global troposphere ozone,
  • 12:27that is the total amount of ozone in the lower level
  • 12:30of the atmosphere, okay.
  • 12:33So using a computer model, so I'm a computer modeler,
  • 12:36and I work with models of the global atmosphere.
  • 12:41We separated out these different influences.
  • 12:43So according to our model, this is how the total ozone
  • 12:47distribution has changed.
  • 12:48Where it's increased the most is an indicator of
  • 12:52where the biggest growth in emissions in the ozone
  • 12:56has taken place, especially South and Southeast Asia.
  • 13:01And then the contributions to this total.
  • 13:04So 28 Teragrams of ozone contributions from the change
  • 13:09in spatial distribution, the magnitude change
  • 13:12and the methane change, these two on the bottom,
  • 13:14though they contributed to the total amount
  • 13:16of ozone present, have very little ability
  • 13:19to explain this pattern of the total lows on growth.
  • 13:24But if we look at the spatial distribution change,
  • 13:27we have reductions in ozone, reductions in emissions,
  • 13:32I should say, from the U.S and Europe,
  • 13:33but pretty dramatic growth in South and Southeast Asia.
  • 13:38And this gets us a lot further at explaining
  • 13:42this total ozone growth.
  • 13:43We were actually surprised by this that this is over half
  • 13:47of the total, bigger than the effect of the magnitude
  • 13:50and the effect of the methane change.
  • 13:53This is another way of looking at this where
  • 13:56this is the I should stay close to the mic,
  • 13:58I'm told because we're recording.
  • 14:00This is the equator, the North Pole, the South Pole,
  • 14:03and then looking through the depth of the atmosphere here.
  • 14:06This is the total change, the spatial distribution change,
  • 14:09the magnitude change, and the changing global methane.
  • 14:13In all of these cases, I should say in these two
  • 14:16on the bottom, again, you don't explain the pattern
  • 14:20that you see in the total ozone change.
  • 14:22And this helps us to explain why this is so important.
  • 14:25So as admissions have shifted, further southward,
  • 14:29close to the equator now, those emissions are being lifted
  • 14:33up by deep convection, we would say in a (mumbles)
  • 14:37meteorological sense, reaching a higher level
  • 14:40in the atmosphere than they do here.
  • 14:42Once those emissions become part of the upper troposphere,
  • 14:47they live longer, and they react to form ozone.
  • 14:50That's what's driving this greater sensitivity
  • 14:53of ozone to changes in our pollutant emissions
  • 14:57near the equator.
  • 14:58And you can see that really vividly here
  • 15:00that these emissions that are from Southeast Asia in India
  • 15:04are being distributed, lofted up very high,
  • 15:08where they're reacting to form a lot of ozone.
  • 15:11So our concern then was that as we shift
  • 15:17and continue to to shift emissions toward the equator,
  • 15:20that even if global emissions might decrease,
  • 15:23if we're if the spatial pattern is changing,
  • 15:25we might continue to increase global ozone.
  • 15:29This was the work of Yuqiang Zhang who is my PhD student
  • 15:32and that postdoc, he's continued that do a bunch more
  • 15:37simulations where he's separating out then the influence
  • 15:40of each we're looking again at the change from 1980 to 2010.
  • 15:45Looking at the influence of each world region change
  • 15:49on the total ozone change,
  • 15:50and here's the methane change as well.
  • 15:52So this is the total effect.
  • 15:54And we see here that East Asia is important, that's China.
  • 15:57That's not surprising, they led the world in
  • 16:01manufacturing with huge emissions associated with it.
  • 16:05What is surprising here,
  • 16:06is right next to it is Southeast Asia
  • 16:08as important for globalism.
  • 16:11And if we look at the emissions,
  • 16:13the emissions from Southeast Asia are much smaller
  • 16:16than the emission growth that's taken place over
  • 16:19these three decades from East Asia.
  • 16:22So we're really highlighting here how important
  • 16:25emissions are, that are near the equator,
  • 16:29and in particular, from Southeast Asia, suggesting
  • 16:32that there really are sort of emission hotspots
  • 16:35where each ton of emissions has a much greater influence,
  • 16:39on global air quality than emissions
  • 16:42from further north, okay.
  • 16:46So that's your bit of atmospheric science today.
  • 16:49I'll turn our attention to health.
  • 16:51And our first question will be,
  • 16:53how many people die each year due to exposure
  • 16:56to ambient air pollution?
  • 16:57I'm gonna take a minute and get into that.
  • 16:59So, Rob introduced me as an engineer
  • 17:02and my background is engineering.
  • 17:04I had no schooling and public health
  • 17:06had no idea what public health was about,
  • 17:09really until I did this study,
  • 17:13I had been for a few years,
  • 17:15I had a fellowship to work in UPA headquarters in DC.
  • 17:19So there's a fellowship program for PhD scientists
  • 17:22to go into government offices.
  • 17:23And I thought at the time that I'd be leaving academics
  • 17:26for good to pursue a career in policy.
  • 17:29And I learned a lot about how people
  • 17:33formulate policy questions in a place like DC.
  • 17:37And that changed how I approached problems.
  • 17:40So I became interested in health.
  • 17:43Health is an interesting topic, but my main motivation
  • 17:46actually was to think about it from a cost benefit
  • 17:49of policy analysis point of view.
  • 17:51The health was, to me the benefit
  • 17:53of the cost benefit analysis.
  • 17:55That's why I wanted to study it.
  • 17:57So my first study, there was I became aware as I just sort
  • 18:01of explained to you that methane affects
  • 18:04the global background of ozone.
  • 18:08We had been thinking about methane,
  • 18:11obviously as a greenhouse gas.
  • 18:12And there's good reasons to reduce methane
  • 18:15as a greenhouse gas.
  • 18:16I thought I look at it in different contexts.
  • 18:18And I asked the question, could we justify
  • 18:21reducing methane emissions, because of it's reductions
  • 18:25in ozone, and the health benefits
  • 18:28that would come about from that?
  • 18:30So this was published in 2006.
  • 18:33I called up Michelle Bell, who had the number one paper
  • 18:36at the time on ozone related deaths
  • 18:40and I talked through with her.
  • 18:41How do I use that information in
  • 18:44what I'll call now a risk assessment?
  • 18:46So using epidemiological information to assess health.
  • 18:50So what I did here was I use my global atmospheric model,
  • 18:54put in a simulated a 20% reduction
  • 18:57of global methane emissions,
  • 18:59overlaid that on the world's population,
  • 19:03and found that the reduction who knows on that came about
  • 19:06from reducing methane avoided about 30,000 deaths in 2030.
  • 19:12When I put dollar sign associated with those deaths,
  • 19:15and compared it against the cost of reducing methane,
  • 19:19and I could look up from the climate literature,
  • 19:22the ways that we could think about reducing methane
  • 19:24and how much it costs, I found actually that the benefits
  • 19:28to health outweigh the cost.
  • 19:30So that was kind of cool.
  • 19:32And it's suggested that we could be thinking about methane
  • 19:34controls from an air pollution management point of view,
  • 19:38as well as from climate change management point of view.
  • 19:42Okay, but one of the things that I was only vaguely aware
  • 19:45of at the time, this was actually the first time
  • 19:48or certainly one of the first times that anybody had used
  • 19:52global atmospheric model
  • 19:54to drive a health impact assessment.
  • 19:56And what I wasn't anticipating at the time was,
  • 19:59that would be that the major direction of my research
  • 20:02ever since that, okay.
  • 20:04So what I'll talk to you through now
  • 20:05or some more applications,
  • 20:07where I'm using my global atmospheric model,
  • 20:10or using models that are used in the community
  • 20:12that I came from, and now using them
  • 20:15for Health Impact Assessments.
  • 20:18So the question that I asked just go back a couple slides
  • 20:22how many people died prematurely due to exposure
  • 20:24to outdoor air pollution every year?
  • 20:28If we look back several Global Burden of Disease Assessments
  • 20:31ago, the first answers to those questions only looked
  • 20:35at cities because it was in cities
  • 20:37that we had observations
  • 20:38we didn't have observations elsewhere.
  • 20:41And so they were only estimating in the
  • 20:44Global Burden of Disease, the effect of air pollution
  • 20:47on health for the fraction of the world's population
  • 20:50that lived in the city, ignoring everybody else,
  • 20:53but we know where pollution is going up in a lot of places,
  • 20:56even rural places.
  • 20:58So our first attempt at doing that was
  • 21:00that you use a computer model, the computer model
  • 21:03has an advantage because it's got
  • 21:05complete quote global coverage.
  • 21:07It's got disadvantages, of (mumbles) grid cells
  • 21:10that don't really tell you what people are breathing
  • 21:12in an urban setting.
  • 21:14And it's got biases, okay.
  • 21:17But nonetheless, we used it and that gave us the first
  • 21:20estimate of global air pollution related deaths
  • 21:25as a global total.
  • 21:27Here was the next study in that line.
  • 21:29This is Raquel Silva, who is my PhD.
  • 21:32I use a bunch of chemistry and climate models.
  • 21:34These are simulations that were run for climate research,
  • 21:38but they also output ground level concentrations of ozone,
  • 21:42and PM2.5 and one of the neat things is they simulated
  • 21:46today, which in this study was year 2000.
  • 21:50And they also simulated the year 1850 as being
  • 21:53before the Industrial Revolution.
  • 21:54So we took the difference between air pollution in 1850
  • 21:59and 2000 and called that human caused air pollution.
  • 22:03And then assess what that meant for global human health.
  • 22:06So these are a bunch of different models
  • 22:08that all ran the same experiment.
  • 22:11This for ozone, you see, there's a spread
  • 22:13of different results, using the different models.
  • 22:17When we looked at this, this is the average of those.
  • 22:19But the error bars here reflect both the uncertainty
  • 22:22and the concentration response function,
  • 22:24and the spread that we get from the different models.
  • 22:27And it turns out that the uncertainty that comes
  • 22:30from the spread of the different models,
  • 22:32outweighs the uncertainty contributes more
  • 22:35to this overall uncertainty, then does the uncertainty
  • 22:38and the concentration response function.
  • 22:40So that was kind of interesting as well.
  • 22:42But globally, half a million or so, deaths related to ozone,
  • 22:48related to PM2.5, about 2 million deaths.
  • 22:51In a minute, I'll put those numbers into more context
  • 22:54for you, you know, how do we think about that
  • 22:56and how do we compare what that number means?
  • 22:59I'll just finish talking about this study.
  • 23:01This is the average of the many different models we use.
  • 23:05This is for ozone, with most of the world's deaths occurring
  • 23:09in India and East Asia, obviously huge populations exposed
  • 23:13to highly polluted air.
  • 23:16Here, we've looked at it deaths per million people
  • 23:18in these different regions, it's certainly higher there.
  • 23:20But even North America stands out is pretty high
  • 23:23as well there, even though air pollution is has gotten
  • 23:28less severe through time, okay.
  • 23:31And in East Asia, I mean, (mumbles) PM2.5
  • 23:36half the global total is in East Asia or so, okay.
  • 23:40So that's an example of the type of work that we can do,
  • 23:45addressing this question.
  • 23:47Will come back to that question when we look at the
  • 23:49Global Burden of Disease Assessment.
  • 23:51This was our
  • 23:54contribution to the Global Burden of Disease Assessments,
  • 23:58where my lab is now looking at the statistical methods
  • 24:01for how we can best model global
  • 24:04surface ozones concentration.
  • 24:06So we wanna understand all around the world
  • 24:08what people are breathing at ground level.
  • 24:11The challenges that we've got a lot of measurements
  • 24:14of ozone air pollution in the United States and Europe
  • 24:17and much less elsewhere.
  • 24:19And I'll show you later we have huge voids where
  • 24:24of Africa for example, where there's very few observations.
  • 24:27So going beyond where we started,
  • 24:30which was let's just use a model to estimate
  • 24:32what people are breathing.
  • 24:34Now we're going to fuse together in a statistical way
  • 24:39the global surface ozone concentrations,
  • 24:42I'm sorry, the global ozone observations
  • 24:45and an ensemble of global models, okay.
  • 24:47So we have a big team working on this
  • 24:50we're working with Owen Cooper and Kai-Lan Chang.
  • 24:53Owen is the chair of what's known as the tropospheric goes
  • 24:56on Assessment Report.
  • 24:57They've compiled together, this is the biggest compilation
  • 25:00of ozone related measurements
  • 25:03that it's ever been put together from all around the world
  • 25:06going back several decades, actually.
  • 25:08So that was a huge undertaking, including, you know,
  • 25:10calling up the government of Iran,
  • 25:13and asking them that they would share their ozone data.
  • 25:16There's a lot of work that went into that.
  • 25:18I'm using a bunch of models that come out of what's
  • 25:21known as the chemistry climate model initiative.
  • 25:24And then we have a big team of people in all especially
  • 25:27mentioned, Marc Serre, who's a space time statistician
  • 25:31who works in my department, and will use his methods here.
  • 25:33I'll explain that in a minute, okay.
  • 25:35So Kai-Lan led our first study which was published
  • 25:38this year, where we're combining,
  • 25:42again, the observations and output for many models,
  • 25:46and we're using here this health related metric,
  • 25:48we're doing an average of several years.
  • 25:51And the health related metric was requested
  • 25:53by the Global Burden of Disease Assessment,
  • 25:56because this is how they'll assess human health.
  • 25:59Okay, so the big the picture we take tour observations
  • 26:03this is what those look like.
  • 26:04Again, a lot of observations in a few places,
  • 26:07but other places very sparse observations.
  • 26:11We have the, this is the multi model average,
  • 26:14the average of all the models that we're using,
  • 26:16you see that this is biased high,
  • 26:18so we wanna correct that bias.
  • 26:20Then combine these together, I'll talk about the steps
  • 26:23that we go through to do this, to create this output map
  • 26:27that was delivered for the
  • 26:28Global Burden of Disease 2017 Assessment.
  • 26:32So I'll go through the steps that Kai-Lan did in this study.
  • 26:35First, he did a spatial interpolation
  • 26:37of all the measurements which is shown here.
  • 26:41He looked at all of the models, these are the models listed.
  • 26:45And he did a full evaluation of each model with respect
  • 26:51to all of the observations.
  • 26:54Here is really the key to what Kai-Lan did,
  • 26:56he found in each region of the world, so for North America,
  • 27:01Europe, East Asia, et cetera.
  • 27:03The combination of models that best represents
  • 27:08the measurements, the best reproduces the measurements.
  • 27:11So he is like an optimization routine that he goes through
  • 27:15to find the linear combination of models
  • 27:17that best reproduces the measurements.
  • 27:20And he's correcting bias while he does that,
  • 27:22that gives us this multimodal blend.
  • 27:25And the last step is where we have observations,
  • 27:28then, we're gonna correct within two degrees
  • 27:31of those observations.
  • 27:32The two degrees is fairly arbitrary,
  • 27:35and I'll talk about that choice next.
  • 27:38But we correct for the observations within two degrees
  • 27:42of the observation.
  • 27:44And this is our final product.
  • 27:46So in the U.S where we had a lot of observation stations,
  • 27:50it's going to because of this last step, basically
  • 27:53be based mainly on the observations
  • 27:57in a place like Africa where we have very few observations
  • 28:00our output is going to be based mainly on the models.
  • 28:04Okay, so that was our first attempt at it,
  • 28:07which was produced for the Global Burden of Disease 2017.
  • 28:11And we just finished our work for the new
  • 28:14forthcoming Global Burden of Disease 2019.
  • 28:17Here we did quite a few steps to improve upon that.
  • 28:20We're now producing ozone maps for all years,
  • 28:22from 1990 to 2017.
  • 28:26Where you perform a new data fusion method
  • 28:29that I'll explain in a minute, which is Marc Serre's method
  • 28:31known as Bayesian Maximum Entropy.
  • 28:34We add new observations from China and elsewhere.
  • 28:36China really started measuring in 2015 or so.
  • 28:40Now there's hundreds of stations in China operating
  • 28:43which were not up operating before.
  • 28:46And when we do this, we have really the observations
  • 28:52if there's a lot of observations
  • 28:53that can give us spatial information on a fine scale,
  • 28:56such as around an urban area,
  • 28:58but again, many places in the world
  • 29:00have very few observations.
  • 29:02So what we did is the last step was to use this
  • 29:05NASA model that simulated the whole world at one eighth
  • 29:10of a degree resolution.
  • 29:12To add that find space or spatial structure
  • 29:15(mumbles) output product is for the whole world,
  • 29:17each year over this period, at .1 degree resolution.
  • 29:21So we've delivered that to GVD, they're gonna use that.
  • 29:25I'll explain the Bayesian Maximum Entropy method.
  • 29:28So we use the output of the multi model blending
  • 29:32that Kai-Lan Chang did.
  • 29:34So we're now doing that and each year,
  • 29:36that becomes in this framework, a global offset,
  • 29:39which is shown in blue, the BME method would
  • 29:43in suppose these are observations around it.
  • 29:46So the BME method would exactly match an observation
  • 29:50at the location of the observation
  • 29:53and the influence of this observation.
  • 29:56If you're very far away from the observations,
  • 29:58you're gonna use the global offset which is this
  • 30:01model output, so basing it on the models,
  • 30:04and the influence of these observations falls off
  • 30:07with distance from the observations.
  • 30:11And that function by which it decreases with distance
  • 30:16is a function of the spatial correlation
  • 30:19of the observations themselves, okay.
  • 30:22I'll talk more about that in a minute.
  • 30:24So, the features of the output is
  • 30:26that we're gonna match observations,
  • 30:28where we have observations and far from the observations,
  • 30:31we're gonna tend toward what the models are telling us
  • 30:34after we bias correct them.
  • 30:37I should say, though, this shows it in space,
  • 30:39but we also do this in time actually.
  • 30:41So we use information in different years.
  • 30:44It's often the case that a monitoring station
  • 30:47will come online in a particular year.
  • 30:49We can use information from those monitoring values
  • 30:54and use that to inform the years before that, okay,
  • 30:58in a statistical sense, where
  • 31:01again, the further we get away from it,
  • 31:03the influence of those observations falls off
  • 31:06with distance or time.
  • 31:08This is what those correlations look like
  • 31:10this is a covariance function with distance
  • 31:14from the station.
  • 31:15So spatially, it drops off quite a lot such that
  • 31:19by the time we're one degree away from an observation,
  • 31:24we've lost a lot of useful information.
  • 31:27But in time, it drops off actually very slowly.
  • 31:29So, one, this is to say that one year's observations
  • 31:34is useful for informing the years around it,
  • 31:36and (mumbles) we make use of that here, okay.
  • 31:40So our final product, I'm just showing you results
  • 31:42for a single year, but we've done this
  • 31:44for all years over this period.
  • 31:46We started with the observations.
  • 31:48This is a multi model average which is bias high.
  • 31:52If we go through this step of
  • 31:55our first sort of methods of combining together
  • 31:58the different models in an optimum sense,
  • 32:01this is an correcting for bias.
  • 32:03This is the result that we get.
  • 32:05And then our final product, which doesn't look all
  • 32:08that different from that one.
  • 32:09But if you look at details around in urban area,
  • 32:13for example, especially where we have measurements now,
  • 32:16this is doing a lot better at reproducing
  • 32:18those measurements, okay.
  • 32:23So the most recent global,
  • 32:25we've delivered that to Global Burden of Disease
  • 32:27that's gonna come out in the forthcoming assessment,
  • 32:29but these are the results that I'll take a bit
  • 32:31and talk about to put air pollution related
  • 32:34deaths into perspective.
  • 32:35This is from the 2017 assessment that was done.
  • 32:38So, Ambient PM2.5 pollution, that's 2.9 million deaths,
  • 32:44Ambient noise, pollution, about half a million deaths.
  • 32:47The third one here is household air pollution
  • 32:49from solid fuels.
  • 32:50That's people burning coal, and straw and wood,
  • 32:55within a home environment,
  • 32:57often where there's very poor ventilation.
  • 32:59So this is not in the United States,
  • 33:02but in the poorest regions of the world where people don't
  • 33:04have access to electricity and things like that.
  • 33:08So that's 1.6 or so million.
  • 33:10If you were to add up PM2.5 and ozone,
  • 33:13that's one of every 19 deaths globally.
  • 33:16And what the Global Burden of Disease Assessment does
  • 33:19is they assessed a whole bunch of different risk factors
  • 33:23such that you can compare them against one another
  • 33:25and here's Ambien PM2.5 pollution,
  • 33:29coming in at number 10th in this list,
  • 33:31if you only looked at death, it would be the number eighth
  • 33:35most important risk factor but look at the things around it.
  • 33:38So I think if you were to ask people, what's most important
  • 33:41for health first, you know, PM2.5 pollution
  • 33:45is the number one, it's shown in green,
  • 33:47environmental risk factor.
  • 33:49Here's unsafe water coming in after that,
  • 33:52but around this are a lot of things
  • 33:55that have to do with diet.
  • 33:58Have to do with you know, obesity,
  • 34:00high blood pressure, right?
  • 34:02And here's PM2.5 pollution being comparable to all those
  • 34:07many of those other sources.
  • 34:08So that's been really very influential in
  • 34:12changing people's minds about how important air pollution
  • 34:15is globally as a driver of global public health.
  • 34:20I'll mention as well that in the past year,
  • 34:22there's been another study come out where
  • 34:25they looked again at the epidemiological functions
  • 34:27that they're using, constructed a new function,
  • 34:31which gives us much greater number of deaths.
  • 34:35So 8.9 is quite a bit bigger than 2.8.
  • 34:38If they're gonna use this function in the forthcoming
  • 34:42Global Burden of Disease Assessment,
  • 34:44we should expect much bigger numbers to come out of that.
  • 34:48Okay.
  • 34:50How will climate change affect global air pollution
  • 34:52and air pollution related deaths, okay?
  • 34:55This is a figure from Arlene Fury that I collaborate with.
  • 34:59There's all kinds of ways that climate change as it occurs
  • 35:03is expected to affect air quality.
  • 35:06So climate change affects meteorology.
  • 35:08Meteorology, rainfall removes pollutants
  • 35:11from the atmosphere, higher temperatures and more sunlight
  • 35:16make chemical reactions happen more quickly
  • 35:19that increases air pollution.
  • 35:22If there's stronger winds that can ventilate
  • 35:25polluted region taking pollution elsewhere,
  • 35:28that might decrease air pollution.
  • 35:30There might be influences we expect of climate change
  • 35:33to increase the amount of organics the trees put out.
  • 35:39The if we look at wind blowing dust,
  • 35:42if we look at forest fires, all of these things will
  • 35:45be affected by climate change, okay.
  • 35:48So there's a lot of different pathways here, physical
  • 35:51ways that climate change could affect air pollution.
  • 35:54And we're again looking at a bunch of different global
  • 35:57models that have addressed this so what.
  • 36:00The experiment that they ran was to hold a mission constant
  • 36:04at present day levels and then look at 2030 experiments
  • 36:08with future climate change versus today's climate.
  • 36:12And then 2100 with future climate versus today's climate,
  • 36:16so there's singling out the effects of climate change.
  • 36:20When we look over these different models,
  • 36:22we get different answers from each model,
  • 36:24including some models here, a few models for which,
  • 36:28you know, depends a lot on how the spatial distribution
  • 36:31of where air pollution is increasing because
  • 36:33of climate change, and where it's decreasing
  • 36:36overlays on population, right?
  • 36:37So if we happen to have big increase that happens right over
  • 36:41India, which is densely populated,
  • 36:44that's gonna be really important.
  • 36:45Okay, so our multi model average year is positive,
  • 36:49not hugely positive, and there's big uncertainty
  • 36:52that comes about from the spread of the different models,
  • 36:55nonetheless, most of the models suggest increase
  • 36:59of air pollution due to climate change,
  • 37:02a few suggested decrease.
  • 37:05And for PM2.5 we have fewer models that reported changes
  • 37:09in PM2.5, but only one of them showed a small decrease.
  • 37:13And now we have more of the models showing a big increase
  • 37:18the magnitude here by 2100, 200 or so thousand
  • 37:22deaths per year attributable to climate change
  • 37:26by this mechanism.
  • 37:28If we look at all of the ways that climate change
  • 37:30could affect health, this actually is pretty important.
  • 37:34Okay, you might not have guessed that climate changes
  • 37:37effect on air pollution would be one of the important ways
  • 37:41that it would affect health.
  • 37:42You might think as well, right, heat stress,
  • 37:46spread of infectious diseases,
  • 37:48access to food and water population displaces.
  • 37:50There's all kinds of ways that affects health
  • 37:52but when we've tried to put numbers to it, this number,
  • 37:56you know, of deaths, puts it in the same ballpark,
  • 37:59as many of those other factors.
  • 38:01So, maybe not what you would have guessed at first,
  • 38:03but again, because air pollution kills a lot of people
  • 38:06that becomes important here, okay.
  • 38:11What are trends in air pollution related deaths in the U.S?
  • 38:15I'm gonna, we've only got two topics left.
  • 38:17I'm gonna try to wrap this up somewhat quickly.
  • 38:20This is the work of Omar Nawaz and Yuqiang Zhang.
  • 38:23Omar was a master student with me.
  • 38:25Yuqiang was a PhD student and postdoc.
  • 38:28Omar created this nice animation for you.
  • 38:32This is from a satellite data set looking down
  • 38:35in North America of PM2.5 concentration.
  • 38:38This goes from 1998 I think it was to 2012
  • 38:44I think that's right 2011.
  • 38:47And we've taken steps in the United States
  • 38:50to dramatically decrease air pollution and that's sort
  • 38:53of actually a public health success story
  • 38:55that hasn't been talked about quite as much as it could be.
  • 38:58We still have a severe air pollution problem (mumbles)
  • 39:01I'll talk about in a minute.
  • 39:02But nonetheless, we've taken you know,
  • 39:04it's mainly EPA regulations that have driven
  • 39:10air pollution levels down.
  • 39:11And the effects of that are pretty dramatic
  • 39:13when we look at it in terms of concentrations.
  • 39:16So we wanna look at that in terms of health as well.
  • 39:20We're using three different data sets,
  • 39:22they give us concentration.
  • 39:23So one is this 21 year simulation using
  • 39:27the CMAQ regional air quality model
  • 39:30that was conducted at the EPA.
  • 39:32So that's pretty unique resource we're using here.
  • 39:35That's sort of extended here using another data set
  • 39:38the North American Chemical Reanalysis.
  • 39:41This is like air pollution forecast models
  • 39:45that archive their results, and we're using them here.
  • 39:49And then the satellite derived product that comes from
  • 39:52Randall Martin's group, he's at the Dalhausser University
  • 39:56in Canada, what we're using as well
  • 39:58as we're using from the CDC county level population
  • 40:02and baseline cause specific mortality rates
  • 40:06to assess air pollution mortality, and each year.
  • 40:08So we're gonna do air pollution related deaths in each year,
  • 40:11over this whole period, using this information
  • 40:14to also account for how population
  • 40:16and other causes of death are changing.
  • 40:21So the results that we get using our three different
  • 40:23data sets all should have a pretty dramatic decrease
  • 40:26this for PM2.5.
  • 40:29The three different data sets over in the years they overlap
  • 40:32disagree by quite a lot, unfortunately.
  • 40:35And that's of course, because they're reporting
  • 40:37different concentrations, but they all show
  • 40:39a similar trend, okay.
  • 40:42And that's it's itself sort of an interesting finding.
  • 40:46Because we use this county level mortality rate,
  • 40:49we were able to then separate out the total change in death,
  • 40:53which is in black here with uncertainty around it,
  • 40:56and then the deaths that would have come about
  • 40:58from only the concentration change.
  • 41:01If we held the population and the baseline death rate
  • 41:05at 1990 levels, and then what the effect of population
  • 41:09and base, of course, population is growing over this period,
  • 41:13but fewer people are dying from heart attack and stroke,
  • 41:16which are the things that air pollution affects.
  • 41:19So that goes down over time.
  • 41:20But the bigger influence is really
  • 41:22this concentration change.
  • 41:24So we can use this simulation to estimate
  • 41:27that PM2.5 reductions since 1990 or so,
  • 41:31have these decreased death in 2010,
  • 41:34by about, this is using only the EPA data set,
  • 41:38by about 35,000 deaths or so.
  • 41:41Okay, we did it for ozone too, only the satellite data set
  • 41:46doesn't apply to ozone.
  • 41:47So we have air pollution, ozone related deaths getting worse
  • 41:53than perhaps better, but quite a lot of year to year
  • 41:56variability here as well, okay.
  • 41:59And again, in this case, the baseline
  • 42:03death rate is going up.
  • 42:05So, without concentrations decreasing,
  • 42:10air pollution related deaths would have gone up,
  • 42:12but in fact, they have stayed about the same
  • 42:15or have gone down a little bit, okay.
  • 42:20This is my public service announcement
  • 42:23since I have your attention.
  • 42:25I've worked on different ways of talking about air pollution
  • 42:28related deaths and how it's important.
  • 42:29I use the number one in 19 deaths globally
  • 42:35from the Global Burden of Disease Assessment.
  • 42:37For the United States, it's about 110,000 deaths
  • 42:42from our work about 47,000 deaths.
  • 42:45This helps translating it to one in 25 deaths
  • 42:48or for the United States, one in 60 or so deaths.
  • 42:52But what I think helps more as compared against other
  • 42:54causes of death.
  • 42:56So in, when I talk with the public about air pollution
  • 43:00related deaths, I try to go out of my way to say,
  • 43:04you know, air pollution is more than all transportation
  • 43:08accidents and all gun shootings combined.
  • 43:11Or it's a breast cancer plus prostate cancer, okay.
  • 43:16I think for a lot of people that gets their attention
  • 43:17and puts it in a different light.
  • 43:19Why is it so important?
  • 43:21Because at the top of this list, this is just the causes
  • 43:24of death from the CDC is heart attack and stroke,
  • 43:28being, you know, a very large number of hundreds
  • 43:32of thousands of deaths every year.
  • 43:34And air pollution modifies that, air pollution affects
  • 43:37those deaths, which means that at the end of the day,
  • 43:40air pollution is really important here, okay.
  • 43:44Let me skip over that.
  • 43:45Okay, so, last question.
  • 43:48If we slow down climate change,
  • 43:49what are the benefits for global air pollution and health?
  • 43:53This is known in the literature is that as CO-benefits
  • 43:56so let's say the world listen to
  • 44:00the teenagers marching on the United Nations this week,
  • 44:03right, got their act together and reduced greenhouse gas
  • 44:09emissions to solve climate change.
  • 44:11Many of the actions that would be taken would be
  • 44:13to shift us away from fossil fuels.
  • 44:15We know that fossil fuel combustion is the major source
  • 44:17of air pollution that we care about
  • 44:20that influences our health.
  • 44:22So there ought to be called benefits associated with that.
  • 44:25And there ought to be health benefits.
  • 44:27Actually, Michelle has worked in this area too.
  • 44:29If we look back historically at these studies,
  • 44:31a lot of those studies were done by public health people
  • 44:34that maybe didn't take is a very sophisticated look
  • 44:37at the atmospheric science part of the problem,
  • 44:40or by economist, right?
  • 44:41That we're motivated to understand,
  • 44:44how big is this code benefit compared to the costs
  • 44:47of reducing air pollution in the first place?
  • 44:51When we take action to reduce emissions of greenhouse gases,
  • 44:56that reduces greenhouse gases
  • 44:57but also slows down air pollutant emissions,
  • 45:00that's good for air pollution and human health.
  • 45:02This is a pathway that is immediate local,
  • 45:05but I also told you that climate change as it occurs,
  • 45:09so in this context, we're slowing down climate change,
  • 45:12climate change effects, air pollution.
  • 45:14So we're slowing down that influence too.
  • 45:17So our study was the first to look at
  • 45:19these two different pathways,
  • 45:21such a you could add them up together, okay.
  • 45:24I'll show you some results of that study.
  • 45:26So again, we're using our global atmospheric model.
  • 45:29In this case, I've worked with a team of energy economics
  • 45:33modelers using the what's known as the G-Cam,
  • 45:36energy global energy economics model.
  • 45:38So in doing this, they simulate what the future
  • 45:42would be like under, you could say a reference case
  • 45:45or a business as usual case without climate policy.
  • 45:48In their model, then they apply to a global carbon tax.
  • 45:53That was pretty aggressive,
  • 45:54aggressive enough to really actually
  • 45:57have a big effect of slowing down climate change.
  • 46:00Within their model, the model is choosing the
  • 46:03most cost effective ways of reducing greenhouse gas
  • 46:05emissions, we were then able to see
  • 46:08what is each of those actions have
  • 46:11mean for air pollutant emissions,
  • 46:15and then put that into our global atmospheric model
  • 46:18overlay that on the global population.
  • 46:21So these are global changes in global PM related deaths
  • 46:25the solid lines in the reference case,
  • 46:28and in the emission reduction case.
  • 46:30So it's the difference between the blue and the red
  • 46:33that is the CO-benefit.
  • 46:35That is attributable, in this case of the climate policy.
  • 46:39We're getting numbers that are half a million deaths
  • 46:41or so by 2030.
  • 46:42So immediately, we get a pretty big benefit by 2100.
  • 46:46We're at one and a half million deaths avoided
  • 46:49by this climate policy.
  • 46:51For ozone, we also get by 2100, pretty big number.
  • 46:54This is in part because the climate policy
  • 46:57is reducing methane and I told you
  • 46:59that methane is important for reacting to contribute
  • 47:03to the globalism background, okay.
  • 47:06When I put numbers, dollar signs associated with this
  • 47:10I'm using here, red is using a high value of a life,
  • 47:13blue is using a low value of a life
  • 47:16looking at it in 2030, 2050, 2100,
  • 47:19the different world regions and the global average here.
  • 47:22So you get, you know, regions like
  • 47:25that are densely populated,
  • 47:27that have severe air pollution problems now,
  • 47:30having pretty big monetize benefits that come out of this.
  • 47:37Some regions here like Australia with a very low population,
  • 47:41and it's gonna be the CO-benefits are gonna be much smaller.
  • 47:45The green shows using 13 actually different
  • 47:51global energy economics models
  • 47:53that all ran a similar experiment,
  • 47:55the cost of reducing emissions per time.
  • 47:58So this is all normalized per ton of carbon dioxide.
  • 48:01So, cost per ton, the solid line is the median
  • 48:05of the 13 models and the dashed lines
  • 48:09give you the full range of those models, okay.
  • 48:11So that's shown here, the benefits outweigh
  • 48:14the cost in 2030.
  • 48:16Also for most world regions in the global average in 2050,
  • 48:20by 2100, we've taken advantage of all the
  • 48:24very cheap ways that we know about reducing
  • 48:27greenhouse gas emissions and are moving up the cost curve.
  • 48:30And there's quite a range of estimated costs
  • 48:33here from this point to this point,
  • 48:35nonetheless, the CO-benefits are still pretty
  • 48:38comfortable with that.
  • 48:39So, we found here then that the CO-benefits are comparable
  • 48:43to or exceed the cost of reducing emissions
  • 48:46in the first place apart obviously,
  • 48:49from other benefits of slowing down climate change itself.
  • 48:52And all the reasons that you go on to that.
  • 48:56When we looked at the CO-benefits literature,
  • 48:58so the the entire range of CO-benefits literature
  • 49:01is here in yellow.
  • 49:03Dollars per time, these are studies that were done
  • 49:06in all kinds of using different methods over
  • 49:09a couple of decades, in all many different world regions,
  • 49:12but most of these studies were local, or for one country.
  • 49:17And one of the novelties of our work,
  • 49:20we put it into this global framework,
  • 49:22we're now accounting for if the United States,
  • 49:25for example, reduces emissions, that affects health
  • 49:28in Europe, actually in Asia, because part
  • 49:31of that air pollution reduction affects
  • 49:34air quality elsewhere and benefits human health elsewhere,
  • 49:37by putting this in a global framework,
  • 49:39where accounting for all of those trans boundary
  • 49:42and influences, okay.
  • 49:44so that's our global CO-benefits study.
  • 49:49Yuqiang Zhang is my PhD student then did quite a lot of work
  • 49:52to downscale that to the United States,
  • 49:54and I'll show you a couple of the results from that.
  • 49:57When he did that for the United States.
  • 49:59Again, we're similarly (mumbles) a global climate policy,
  • 50:03but he ran a couple of experiments to separate out
  • 50:05the effect of domestic within the United States
  • 50:08emission reductions, right here
  • 50:11versus what comes from foreign emission reduction.
  • 50:14So when we look at PM2.5,
  • 50:17most of the benefit is from domestic reductions
  • 50:20that makes sense PM2.5 has a rather
  • 50:22short lifetime in the atmosphere it doesn't move very far
  • 50:26from it's source.
  • 50:27So, most of the benefit is domestic
  • 50:29with some influence for example, from
  • 50:33the reductions in Mexico and Canada
  • 50:35that effect in the United States.
  • 50:38When we looked at the...
  • 50:41when we looked at ozone, however, most of the emission
  • 50:45most of the benefit actually came from
  • 50:47actions that foreign countries took
  • 50:50and the global reduction in methane.
  • 50:52Okay so that was an interesting.
  • 50:54(mumbles) Yuqiang, then looked at the
  • 50:56health benefits associated, finding that most of the benefit
  • 51:01for reduced PM2.5 came about
  • 51:05from domestic reductions shown here.
  • 51:08And most of the benefit for ozone related deaths came about
  • 51:12from foreign reductions
  • 51:14affecting health in the United States, great.
  • 51:20I've covered a lot of ground today.
  • 51:21I hope it wasn't too much for you.
  • 51:23But I hope each of you maybe took away some nugget
  • 51:26that you will carry with you.
  • 51:27There was a lot of people that contributed a lot
  • 51:30of work to this.
  • 51:31Several graduate students over many years,
  • 51:33I really highlighted the work of Yuqiang Zhang
  • 51:36and Raquel Silva, over my PhD students
  • 51:39and did a fine job doing this,
  • 51:41and a lot of collaborators over these many studies.
  • 51:44So thanks a lot for listening
  • 51:45and I'm happy to take some questions.
  • 51:48(students applauding)
  • 51:58Yes, right here.
  • 52:01- [Female Student] (background noise drowns out speaker)
  • 52:05I have a question about the definition
  • 52:07of ozone layer mortality or PM2.5, related to mortality.
  • 52:14I mean, how do you define (faintly speaking)?
  • 52:17- Right, so what we're doing here
  • 52:19is we're using results of an epidemiological study
  • 52:23that would have related PM2.5 and ozone to mortality.
  • 52:29And then using our model, we come up with different
  • 52:33estimates of concentration depending on the application.
  • 52:37And then we apply that function.
  • 52:39So it's the function, the epidemiological function
  • 52:41and the epidemiological study.
  • 52:44I should have made this clear up front more
  • 52:46that relates PM2.5 and goes on with health.
  • 52:51The studies that we're using are the big cohort studies
  • 52:54that are from the United States, largely okay.
  • 52:56So the American Cancer Society Study.
  • 53:00So it's a bit of a leap of faith to say that
  • 53:02that function applies elsewhere in the world.
  • 53:05And we're also in some of our applications,
  • 53:08assuming that, that function applies throughout
  • 53:10the whole century to come, right?
  • 53:13We don't know that that's true.
  • 53:17And we don't know that they apply elsewhere.
  • 53:19Now we're getting better information about
  • 53:23air pollution related deaths in China and India
  • 53:25and elsewhere, but still not the same quality
  • 53:30and number of participants in the study
  • 53:33as we have for the big cohort studies in the United States.
  • 53:35In other words, I'm not sure what else you would assume
  • 53:39about what happens elsewhere in the world
  • 53:41or from the future.
  • 53:42But we should acknowledge and I didn't say it,
  • 53:44but I'll say it now that there's big uncertainties
  • 53:47and assuming that those functions apply spatially
  • 53:51and through time like that, and hopefully that helps
  • 53:53with your question, yeah.
  • 53:55- [Male Student] So particulate matter can be very diverse
  • 53:59it's just size of a matter that you contain chromium six or
  • 54:03(background noise drowns out other sounds)
  • 54:06so how do you take that difference in the heterogeneity
  • 54:10of this substance across different countries?
  • 54:12Or is there a plan?
  • 54:14Because you don't have the data, right?
  • 54:15You have (faintly speaking).
  • 54:16- Well, we don't have the epidemiological studies
  • 54:19that tease out those relationships.
  • 54:21I know Michelle is working in that area,
  • 54:23and other people are as well.
  • 54:25If we had that we if you know, give me a function,
  • 54:27and I'll use it.
  • 54:29But you know, short of that, it's a real question.
  • 54:33And from an air pollution management point of view,
  • 54:37you know, if we knew that it was the sulfates
  • 54:40or it was the organic carbon,
  • 54:42we could just regulate that rather than the mass.
  • 54:44So the limiting factor is really actually
  • 54:47where I started off the presentation talking.
  • 54:51It were limited by measurements of air pollution
  • 54:55that then could be used for epidemiology,
  • 54:57that then could divert derive a function
  • 54:59that then we could use for this kind of application,
  • 55:02but, you know, we're learning more about
  • 55:06using those different measurements and now becoming
  • 55:08more creative combining satellites, you could use a model,
  • 55:11for example, to estimate the contributions
  • 55:14of different emission sources
  • 55:17or different chemical components
  • 55:19to an air pollution mixture, and then do epidemiology
  • 55:22based on the model, right?
  • 55:24Okay, so we're coming up with a lot of new and creative ways
  • 55:28of approaching that question, but yet great question.
  • 55:33Yes, please.
  • 55:36- [Male Voice] I have a question about the,
  • 55:38about your model versus the
  • 55:40Global Burden of Disease model currently.
  • 55:42So the estimates that you had for air pollution
  • 55:45related deaths with something like 40,000
  • 55:50versus, no...
  • 55:52A 100,000 or so, versus by 40,000 with the
  • 55:56Global Burden of Disease,
  • 55:57What is the key differences in your model versus that?
  • 56:00- Yeah, so one is the function that's used
  • 56:03for to relate air pollution with health.
  • 56:05The other is where we're getting exposed
  • 56:07like concentrations from, is it from a model
  • 56:10or from some model measurement blending.
  • 56:15The factor of two is more than a greater difference.
  • 56:18And we would ideally like to see (mumbles)
  • 56:21I mean, we're really working to try to continue
  • 56:23to tease out those differences
  • 56:25and see if we can resolve them.
  • 56:27I know the satellite people have now produced a new
  • 56:31for PM2.5 the satellites have been really very important.
  • 56:35Satellites can see ground level PM2.5,
  • 56:38but they can't see ground with a low ozone.
  • 56:40That's one of the important distinctions here,
  • 56:41we didn't have the benefit of satellite
  • 56:44providing information on ozone.
  • 56:46And they can see it with the satellites
  • 56:48can see it with very fine spatial resolution.
  • 56:51So in the PM2.5 world, you know that
  • 56:54it's actually the satellite that provides a fine spatial
  • 56:58resolution whereas we used to fine resolution model
  • 57:01to do that anyways, that goes beyond your question.
  • 57:04But your question is a good one.
  • 57:06And it troubles me that it's quite as different as it is.
  • 57:10But, you know, I think we need to just continue
  • 57:12to work on it.
  • 57:13See if we can work out the differences
  • 57:16between the different studies.
  • 57:17- [Male Voice] So for the 2019 (faintly speaking)
  • 57:21this model is gonna be adopted,
  • 57:23because it is a very large change.
  • 57:24And this is something I've noticed with other
  • 57:27updates of the GDP numbers for the same years
  • 57:31get updated dramatically as a result.
  • 57:33- Yeah.
  • 57:34- [Male Voice] And so depending on when you actually
  • 57:36access the data, you might get pretty large
  • 57:39in the estimates, so do you have a sense for
  • 57:43what's gonna be done in the 2019 study?
  • 57:46- Well, I know that I know what they're
  • 57:48doing for concentration.
  • 57:49So they're using a similar method for concentrations
  • 57:51and then our ozone estimates, I mean,
  • 57:54for PM2.5 concentrations and then our ozone estimates
  • 57:57are gonna be used that I know well.
  • 57:59I don't know what risk functions they're planning to use.
  • 58:03And it's a good question.
  • 58:04But that's, you know, they have a team of people,
  • 58:07you know, some of the best epidemiologists in the world
  • 58:09reviewing the literature.
  • 58:11So I leave that up to them to use.
  • 58:13I try to, you know, not push the envelope there
  • 58:17our studies are pushing the envelope just by bringing
  • 58:20different information from different fields together.
  • 58:23That's why I (mumbles) so we gained nothing
  • 58:25by using some epidemiological study that, you know,
  • 58:29the people who really understand it,
  • 58:32let them choose it, right?
  • 58:35- [Robert] Okay, so I think we'll wrap
  • 58:36it up, two announcements.
  • 58:37So there's lunch in the LAPH 108.
  • 58:40And also for students who are interested in available,
  • 58:43Jason's gonna be having an informal discussion
  • 58:46starting around 11:15 in room 101.
  • 58:51So thanks again Jason. - Thank you.
  • 58:52(students applauding)
  • 58:58(students chattering)
  • 59:22- Hi, I'm (speaking off mic)
  • 59:23- Oh, hi.
  • 59:24Thanks a lot
  • 59:25- (faintly speaking) or maybe already know, right?
  • 59:34- Oh, that's true.
  • 59:36- Yeah, have you ever heard about that?
  • 59:38- I saw (mumbles), I saw (mumbles), the day (mumbles).
  • 59:44- There you go. (laughs)
  • 59:45but we still need to hear (faintly speaking) (laughs).
  • 59:48- So I wanted to ask, like do you your models initially,
  • 59:53what sparked the question was when I saw (mumbles)
  • 59:56one of the earlier ones your (mumbles) over.