Application of Team Science To Elucidate Sex-Specific Differences of Colorectal Cancer Metabolism
March 19, 2026Yale Cancer Center Grand Rounds | March 17, 2026
Presented by: Dr. Saj Khan and Caroline Johnson
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- 00:00This this dynamic duo,
- 00:02that are gonna be giving
- 00:03us grand rounds today. It's
- 00:04my proud privilege to introduce
- 00:06doctor Khan. Doctor Saj Khan
- 00:08is our section chief of,
- 00:10HBB mixed tumors. He's a
- 00:12wonderful clinician,
- 00:14and an incredible researcher.
- 00:16We've known each other for
- 00:17over a decade. He finished
- 00:19his fellowship at the University
- 00:21of Chicago, and we tried
- 00:22recruiting him when I was
- 00:24at my first job, and
- 00:25now I have the proud
- 00:26privilege of working with him.
- 00:28His science has been focused
- 00:29a lot on the
- 00:31underpinnings of liver metastases,
- 00:32which you'll hear a little
- 00:33bit about, but also about
- 00:35other things, including, biomarkers or
- 00:37pancreas cancer.
- 00:39And then with him is
- 00:41doctor Johnson.
- 00:42Together, they have won numerous
- 00:44awards, numerous NIH peer funded
- 00:46grants,
- 00:48and I think, exemplify
- 00:50how team science works. Doctor
- 00:51Johnson did her PhD in
- 00:53analytical chemistry, which I didn't
- 00:55know you did,
- 00:56at the Imperial College of
- 00:58London, which is one of
- 00:59the premier schools,
- 01:01and she is now,
- 01:03held a position as an
- 01:04associate professor at the School
- 01:05of Public Health in epidemiology.
- 01:08Together, I think both of
- 01:09them have explored,
- 01:10tumor metabolites
- 01:12and genetic differences,
- 01:14around liver metastases,
- 01:16and they'll share some of
- 01:17their journey about the team
- 01:18science as well as,
- 01:21perhaps a little bit about
- 01:22liver metastases.
- 01:23So welcome, Saj and Caroline.
- 01:40Hey. Well, thank you very
- 01:41much, for the introduction. And
- 01:42we'd also like to thank
- 01:44the Yale Cancer Center for
- 01:45inviting us to give a
- 01:46talk today about
- 01:48our collaborative team science work,
- 01:50specifically looking at sex disparities
- 01:52in cancer.
- 01:53So as mentioned, I'm from
- 01:55the School of Public Health.
- 01:56I'm in the Department of
- 01:57Environmental Health Sciences, and doctor
- 01:59Khan
- 02:00is in, the Department of
- 02:02Surgery at Yale School of
- 02:03Medicine. And we've been working
- 02:04together for over nine years
- 02:06now.
- 02:07So over the next forty
- 02:08five minutes,
- 02:09Sajhi is going to start
- 02:11our presentation by introducing some
- 02:13of the background to sex
- 02:14disparities
- 02:15in
- 02:16both, basic research and also
- 02:18clinical research. And then we're
- 02:20gonna, take turns talking about
- 02:21some of our collaborative research,
- 02:23which is mostly in the
- 02:25area of looking at the
- 02:26role of asparagine
- 02:28in colorectal cancer for female
- 02:30patients. And then we'll end
- 02:31talking about some of our,
- 02:33future directions.
- 02:34Thank you.
- 02:41Okay. So
- 02:43so thanks again for, for
- 02:45the opportunity to speak. Thanks,
- 02:46Kieran, for that very nice
- 02:47introduction.
- 02:49You know, cancer is the
- 02:50second leading cause of deaths
- 02:52worldwide.
- 02:54About ten million people each
- 02:56year,
- 02:57die of cancer across the
- 02:58globe.
- 02:59Cancers,
- 03:00affects people of, every walk
- 03:02of life. It affects,
- 03:04females and males,
- 03:06and there's no race or
- 03:07ethnic background in the world
- 03:09that's immune to the development
- 03:10of cancer.
- 03:14Cancer is not just a
- 03:15global problem, but it is
- 03:16a local problem here in
- 03:18Connecticut for women and for
- 03:19men.
- 03:20Here are examples of three
- 03:22patients I've operated on over
- 03:23the last twelve and a
- 03:24half years at Yale throughout
- 03:25the health system. We have
- 03:26a large health system.
- 03:28The left picture is a
- 03:29patient of a seventy year
- 03:31old male with colorectal cancer
- 03:32liver metastases who I did
- 03:34a right hepatectomy on years
- 03:35ago.
- 03:36In the center is a
- 03:37seventy five year old female,
- 03:40who had a diagnosis of
- 03:40pancreas adenocarcinoma,
- 03:42who I did a WIPA
- 03:43on several years ago.
- 03:44And on the right is
- 03:45a seventy one year old
- 03:46female who had a gastric
- 03:48gastrointestinal
- 03:49stromal tumor,
- 03:50a giant one for which
- 03:51we did a a gastrectomy
- 03:53and a distal pancreatectomy.
- 03:58Here are some gross and
- 03:59microscopic
- 04:00pictures of patients who underwent
- 04:01who underwent of a patient
- 04:03who underwent a colectomy for
- 04:04colon adenocarcinoma.
- 04:06The pictures were nicely prepared
- 04:08for by doctor Zuchin Zhang
- 04:09from our department of pathology.
- 04:11On the top left, you
- 04:12can see a picture of,
- 04:14a gross picture of the
- 04:15ascending colon adenocarcinoma.
- 04:17And on the bottom and
- 04:18the right, you can see
- 04:19beautiful histology pictures of a
- 04:20lymph node metastasis
- 04:22and full thickness invasion.
- 04:30Here are the ten leading
- 04:31causes of new cancer diagnoses
- 04:33in the United States and
- 04:34the ten leading cause of
- 04:35cancer deaths in the United
- 04:36States in females and males.
- 04:39What I do want you
- 04:39to notice that even for
- 04:40the nonreproductive
- 04:41cancers,
- 04:42the incidence,
- 04:44is not equivalent.
- 04:46So it's something we'll get
- 04:47back to a little bit
- 04:48later in this talk.
- 04:50And the reason for that
- 04:51is because sex and gender
- 04:52have a major influence on
- 04:54human health.
- 04:55Generally speaking, sex refers to
- 04:57the biological characteristics of an
- 04:59individual,
- 05:00while gender refers to the
- 05:01sociocultural
- 05:03roles and sexual identity of
- 05:05an individual.
- 05:06So the perp for the
- 05:07purposes of this talk,
- 05:09Carol and I are gonna
- 05:10focus on the sex of
- 05:11an individual, and we'll interchangeably
- 05:13use the words female and
- 05:14women,
- 05:15males and men, when discussing
- 05:17the individual sexes.
- 05:20There are differences which exist
- 05:22between sexes in regards to
- 05:23disease development,
- 05:24diagnosis, treatment response, which are
- 05:27rooted in genetic differences between
- 05:29women and men.
- 05:30And understanding the effect of
- 05:31sex as a biological variable
- 05:33will improve the health of
- 05:35women and men
- 05:36across the globe.
- 05:39Unfortunately, there's been a global
- 05:41bias and historical neglect of
- 05:42studying sex as a biological
- 05:44variable in both basic and
- 05:45clinical research,
- 05:47over the years.
- 05:49In biomedical research, females are
- 05:51underrepresented
- 05:52in clinical trials and research,
- 05:54and, biological sex has long
- 05:56been ignored in sciences, and
- 05:58male animals have been predominantly
- 06:00used.
- 06:00So So the majority of
- 06:01research,
- 06:03in our world has been
- 06:04heavily biased towards men.
- 06:09The neglect of research where
- 06:11sex is considered as a
- 06:12biological variable includes cancer research,
- 06:14and we're here at a
- 06:15premier cancer center,
- 06:17and this is something that
- 06:18we wanna focus a bit
- 06:19more of this talk on.
- 06:21Sex disparities are evident in
- 06:23nonreproductive
- 06:23cancers as the incidence of
- 06:25mortality,
- 06:26are higher in males compared
- 06:27to females.
- 06:29And, unfortunately, sex disparities are
- 06:31poorly understood at a molecular
- 06:33level.
- 06:34This includes the impact which
- 06:35sex plays on genetic differences,
- 06:38epigenetic alterations,
- 06:40and sex hormones.
- 06:42Furthermore, there's emerging research, which
- 06:44reveals that x and y
- 06:46genes encode for regulators of
- 06:47metabolism,
- 06:48immunity,
- 06:49and tumor suppression.
- 06:55There are sex disparities that
- 06:56are evident in the major
- 06:57types of treatment we offer
- 06:58for our patients here. We
- 07:00have doctor Traga, who's a
- 07:01surgical oncologist. So when we
- 07:02look at cancer surgery performed,
- 07:04lung cancer surgery, believe it
- 07:06or not, for, female patients
- 07:08actually lead to a better
- 07:09are associated with a better
- 07:11survival
- 07:11and less likely experience of
- 07:13sepsis complications suggesting that there
- 07:15may be,
- 07:16differences in the biology
- 07:18of a female with a
- 07:19male even from surgery.
- 07:21Radiation treatment for esophagus squamous
- 07:23cell carcinoma has a better
- 07:24survival for females compared to
- 07:25males.
- 07:27And for systemic therapies, and
- 07:28we have a lot of,
- 07:29medical oncologists on the Zoom
- 07:31and on the audience, multiple
- 07:32chemotherapy regimens are associated with
- 07:34the longer survival for esophagus
- 07:36cancer,
- 07:37stomach cancer, non small cell
- 07:38lung cancer, and glioblastoma
- 07:40for females.
- 07:42EGFR inhibitors, the targeted drugs,
- 07:44lead to longer survival for
- 07:45females.
- 07:47And interestingly, immune therapies for
- 07:49non small cell lung cancer
- 07:51lead to longer survival for
- 07:52females, but actually for males
- 07:54that get into,
- 07:56IO,
- 07:57they have longer survivals for,
- 07:59again, implying that there's a
- 08:00difference in the biology,
- 08:02of, female and male cancers.
- 08:06There are multiple examples of
- 08:07sex not being considered in
- 08:09preclinical
- 08:10research settings as well.
- 08:12In cancer cell lines, there
- 08:14are, believe it or not,
- 08:14greater stocks of nonreproductive
- 08:16male cell lines compared compared
- 08:18to female cell lines.
- 08:20Single sex analyses fail to
- 08:22consider male and female responses.
- 08:25Many studies just show an
- 08:26averaging of responses across the
- 08:28models for both sexes.
- 08:30When one looks very carefully
- 08:32at cell culture media, the
- 08:33serum of the calf fetus
- 08:35is sometimes mixed with male
- 08:36and female derived,
- 08:38organism organs
- 08:40and more often is not
- 08:41scrutinized.
- 08:42There's a mismatch of cell
- 08:44culture media with cultured cells.
- 08:46And finally, with mouse models,
- 08:48you know, there are also
- 08:49problems. Cancer drugs are often
- 08:52tested in premenopausal
- 08:53mice where the majority of
- 08:54cancers diagnosed,
- 08:56in females are postmenopausal,
- 08:58of age.
- 08:59And there are, of course,
- 09:00financial considerations. We're in constrained
- 09:02times with our financial budgets
- 09:04right now for a lot
- 09:05of our research,
- 09:06and a lot of that
- 09:07leads investigators
- 09:08to,
- 09:10favoring single sex studies in
- 09:11younger mice for financial considerations.
- 09:15As you can imagine, if
- 09:16there's a problem with the
- 09:17basic science, it translates into
- 09:19clinical trials as well.
- 09:21Women have lower enrollment in
- 09:23colorectal cancer and lung cancer
- 09:25trials compared to males.
- 09:27Women are underrepresented
- 09:28in, IO, or immune therapy
- 09:31trials.
- 09:32In a study, that looked
- 09:34at clinical trials and FDA
- 09:35approved modern anticancer drugs,
- 09:38fifty percent of the studies
- 09:39did not report the drug
- 09:40and efficacy,
- 09:42of these drugs in females.
- 09:44And women are also known
- 09:46to be underrepresented in these
- 09:47trials, and this is most
- 09:48this is most pronounced in
- 09:50GI cancer
- 09:51clinical trials, lung cancer, and
- 09:52leukemia trials.
- 09:57Despite these challenges,
- 09:59which we've,
- 10:00mentioned, you know, there are
- 10:02some ongoing efforts which believes
- 10:04that which provide hope that
- 10:06things will get better in
- 10:07the future,
- 10:08and more sex is gonna
- 10:09be looked at as biological
- 10:10variable in scientific research.
- 10:13There have been efforts made
- 10:14to include females and males
- 10:15in cells, tissues, animals, and
- 10:18humans.
- 10:19And, notably, there have been
- 10:20some important policy changes made
- 10:22in the last twenty six
- 10:23years, which are helping helping
- 10:25helping move,
- 10:27biomedical research forward.
- 10:29In two thousand and one,
- 10:30the Institute of Medicine
- 10:31convened a think tank that
- 10:33concluded that sufficient evidence
- 10:35existed, which shows that there's
- 10:36biological differences of women and
- 10:38men that influence treatment and
- 10:40prevention strategies.
- 10:43In two thousand and seven,
- 10:44the World Health Organization
- 10:46passed resolution to urge researchers
- 10:48to split their data according
- 10:50to sex
- 10:51and include gender analysis when
- 10:53appropriate.
- 10:55In two thousand eleven, the
- 10:56Canadian Institutes of Health,
- 10:59expected research applicants to integrate
- 11:01sex and gender,
- 11:02into their research design. To
- 11:04show an example of progress
- 11:05from two thousand eleven to
- 11:07two thousand and twenty two,
- 11:08the research proposal for the
- 11:09Canadian Institute of Health Research
- 11:11increased from twenty two percent
- 11:13to eighty three percent.
- 11:15In nineteen ninety three, the
- 11:17NIH Revitalization Act required the
- 11:19inclusion of women in NIH,
- 11:22funded clinical research. Unfortunately, many
- 11:24researchers did not, follow this
- 11:26recommendation, and sometimes it takes
- 11:28a nudge and sometimes you
- 11:29have to bring back good
- 11:30ideas. And in two thousand
- 11:32sixteen, the NIH
- 11:33passed the Century Cures Act
- 11:35that called for the inclusion
- 11:37of male and female sexes
- 11:38in studies involving cells, tissues,
- 11:40and animals.
- 11:41And most recently,
- 11:43during the Biden administration, the
- 11:44White House initiative on women's
- 11:45health research called to improve
- 11:47women's health research by prioritizing
- 11:49investments
- 11:50in,
- 11:51women's health research.
- 12:01Let's see here.
- 12:04Okay.
- 12:07So, so, hopefully, so far,
- 12:09we've convinced you that,
- 12:11studying sex as a biological
- 12:12variable is an important thing
- 12:14to do, and it's gonna
- 12:15improve cancer outcomes.
- 12:16But how do you go
- 12:17about
- 12:18performing this kind of impactful
- 12:19research?
- 12:20Sometimes when one starts a
- 12:21research project,
- 12:23it can seem like a
- 12:24long windy road. You don't
- 12:25know where to start. You
- 12:26don't know where the the
- 12:27goal line is. You don't
- 12:28know where the end is.
- 12:29So so how do you
- 12:30get go about doing the
- 12:31research?
- 12:32So for one, no one
- 12:34can walk the road anymore,
- 12:35alone.
- 12:36The NIH,
- 12:38has realized that scientific problems,
- 12:40become more challenging given the
- 12:41vast amount of information, technologies,
- 12:43and resources that are ever
- 12:45present,
- 12:46and we're seeing this more
- 12:47and more exponentially in the
- 12:48last one or two years
- 12:49with AI.
- 12:50The increase in number of
- 12:51publications in science and engineering
- 12:54is
- 12:55with multiple authors is increasing
- 12:57exponentially.
- 12:59So in order to tackle,
- 13:01complex problems, the team science
- 13:03approach is the answer. And
- 13:04in order to understand this,
- 13:06we would first like to
- 13:06define what team science exactly
- 13:08is.
- 13:10Team science is a collaborative
- 13:11effort to address a scientific
- 13:13challenge,
- 13:14by leveraging experts in different
- 13:16fields,
- 13:17who need a compelling clinically
- 13:19driven research question to start.
- 13:22The tree the team,
- 13:23is comprised of, individuals that
- 13:25address a clinically focused
- 13:27research project.
- 13:29They are comprised of members
- 13:30with training and expertise,
- 13:33from multiple scientific disciplines.
- 13:35The team works together to
- 13:36combine and integrate,
- 13:38different knowledge skills perspectives,
- 13:40from different fields.
- 13:41And this approach,
- 13:44enables for medical and scientific
- 13:46communities to solve complex problems
- 13:48and help, people worldwide.
- 13:51To apply a team science
- 13:53approach, first, one needs to
- 13:54assemble a team. So the
- 13:56research question should drive who
- 13:57the members of the team
- 13:58should be. So to use
- 13:59a sports analogy, I I
- 14:01enjoy baseball and basketball.
- 14:03So, you know, we're the
- 14:05March Madness is underway right
- 14:07now. So,
- 14:08so in order for, you
- 14:10know, the Yukon women's team
- 14:11to win another championship, every
- 14:13member of the team doesn't
- 14:14need to be a three
- 14:15point shooter. You need a
- 14:16well balanced team with good
- 14:17defenders, good rebounders,
- 14:19a good point guard, so
- 14:20it's a well balanced team.
- 14:21To win a World Series
- 14:23in baseball so Caroline is
- 14:24a Red Sox fan. I'm
- 14:26a Yankees fan, but we
- 14:27still get along.
- 14:28But every player can't be
- 14:30a Derek Jeter. Every player
- 14:31can't be a Mookie Betts.
- 14:32You need a well rounded
- 14:33team of good pitchers, defenders,
- 14:36batters,
- 14:37in order to win a
- 14:38world series.
- 14:40And finally, you know, one
- 14:42needs to identify the right
- 14:43people for the team.
- 14:45Generally speaking, here's a solid
- 14:46component of what Caroline and
- 14:48I have used over the
- 14:49last, you know, nine years
- 14:50for our team.
- 14:52So,
- 14:53you know, you need good
- 14:54collaborators, biostatisticians,
- 14:56students and pre docs who
- 14:58are passionate about the research
- 14:59project that the PIs are
- 15:00interested in, good mentorship and
- 15:02advisorship. We both feel strongly
- 15:04about mentorship.
- 15:05Good lab staff that's supportive,
- 15:07and good postdocs in creating
- 15:09a good environment.
- 15:12Doctor Johnson and I both,
- 15:14have individual labs at the
- 15:15Yale School of Public Health
- 15:17and the Yale School of
- 15:18Medicine where we create synergy
- 15:20in our research projects,
- 15:21from the team members so
- 15:23the intellectual,
- 15:24sum is far greater than
- 15:25the individuals. So the intellectual
- 15:27sum is greater than the
- 15:28individuals. So so we strongly
- 15:30advocate for a team science
- 15:31approach,
- 15:32and together, our labs study
- 15:34how metabolism and biological sex
- 15:36influence colorectal cancer and patient
- 15:38outcomes.
- 15:40Our team science approach has
- 15:42resulted in science, which is
- 15:43moving the field forward by
- 15:44tackling GI cancers.
- 15:47Our approach has led to
- 15:48multiple high impact publications over
- 15:50the last nine,
- 15:51less than nine years in
- 15:53addition to millions of dollars
- 15:54of funding from the NIH,
- 15:55which has has enabled us
- 15:57to contribute to society's understanding
- 15:58of GI cancers
- 16:00both globally globally and locally
- 16:02here in New England.
- 16:04I'm gonna turn it over
- 16:05to doctor Johnson.
- 16:07Thank you, Saj. So,
- 16:09I'm now gonna be discussing
- 16:10some of our collaborative research
- 16:12that has used metabolomics
- 16:14to identify sex specific
- 16:16metabolism in colorectal cancer.
- 16:19So I'd first like to
- 16:20start by explaining why it's
- 16:22important to understand the diversity
- 16:23and functions of metabolites in
- 16:25cancer.
- 16:26Well, metabolites and actually metabolic
- 16:28rewiring can actually help the
- 16:30transition
- 16:31from a primary tumor to
- 16:32a metastasis. So you see
- 16:34here on this diagram
- 16:35that actually the production of
- 16:37acidic metabolites like lactate
- 16:39can help the the primary
- 16:40tumor cells undergo interversation
- 16:42into the,
- 16:44circulatory system.
- 16:46Once the tumor cells are
- 16:47in the circulatory system, they
- 16:48actually undergo a high amount
- 16:50of oxidative stress. So the
- 16:52cells ramp up their production
- 16:53of glutathione and NADPH
- 16:55to survive.
- 16:56Once they reach their new
- 16:58seeded sites, such as the
- 16:59liver or the lung, the
- 17:01cells are actually in a
- 17:02state of dormancy
- 17:03because this is a completely
- 17:04new,
- 17:05microenvironment,
- 17:06different nutrients present there.
- 17:08Then they start to ramp
- 17:09up their anabolic metabolism, producing
- 17:11more metabolites and also nucleic
- 17:13acids and proteins and lipids
- 17:14to grow in the new
- 17:16organ. So you can see
- 17:17there are many bottlenecks along
- 17:19this cascade that can actually
- 17:20be targeted,
- 17:22by using by looking at
- 17:23metabolites and targeting metabolites to
- 17:26improve prognosis.
- 17:29But, you know, we came
- 17:30to think about sex differences
- 17:32in metabolism because there is
- 17:33this fundamental fact that nearly
- 17:35all aspects of metabolism do
- 17:37show this sexual dimorphism.
- 17:39So even eighty years ago,
- 17:41the first paper that really
- 17:42showed this was, come from
- 17:44Marseille, and this professor noted
- 17:46differences in fact deposition.
- 17:48So this is a quote
- 17:49from his paper
- 17:53man's fat mass, though she
- 17:55is as often obese as
- 17:56a man or fatter, she's
- 17:57very nice,
- 17:59she dies less often from
- 18:00the metabolic complications of obesity.
- 18:03So women resist the loss
- 18:04of body energy stores while
- 18:06men mobilize energy stores promptly.
- 18:09And you can see this
- 18:10quite clearly if you look
- 18:11at carbohydrate and lipid metabolism
- 18:13at rest and exercise and
- 18:15the differences between men and
- 18:16women. So during rest, females
- 18:19tend to incorporate free fatty
- 18:20acids into triglycerides
- 18:22to store fat. And then
- 18:23in exercise, they preferentially use
- 18:25these, lipids as a fuse
- 18:27fuel source.
- 18:28Whereas for males, at rest,
- 18:29they tend to oxidize these
- 18:31free fatty acids. And during
- 18:33exercise, they preferentially use carbohydrates
- 18:35of a as a fuel
- 18:36fuel source. So this is
- 18:38just one example of how
- 18:39there are sex differences in
- 18:41metabolism, but it obviously goes
- 18:42much more broader than this.
- 18:46And, there was a review
- 18:47paper out about five years
- 18:48ago, which collated a lot
- 18:50of, studies that has seen
- 18:51the same effect in cancer
- 18:53cells between differences between males
- 18:55and females.
- 18:56So highlighted here in the
- 18:58green are is a metabolic
- 18:59pathway that's preferentially used
- 19:02by cancer cells in males,
- 19:03and in purple is a
- 19:05pathway that's used preferentially by
- 19:07cancer cells in females.
- 19:08So you can see glucose
- 19:10is converted into pyruvate and
- 19:12lactate in males preferentially.
- 19:14But for females, the intermediates
- 19:16in glycolysis
- 19:16actually get shunted through to
- 19:18the pentose phosphate pathway
- 19:20and to generate NADPH,
- 19:22and are used as metabolic
- 19:23building blocks as well in
- 19:25metabolites.
- 19:26So you can see even
- 19:27in these core metabolic pathways,
- 19:28there really are profound sex
- 19:30differences.
- 19:33And then if we look
- 19:34at colorectal cancer, as doctor
- 19:36Khan mentioned, there are sex
- 19:37differences in incidence of mortality,
- 19:39where males tend to have
- 19:40a higher incidence of mortality
- 19:42of this disease.
- 19:43But actually, new studies coming
- 19:44out from IARC just in
- 19:46the past year have seen
- 19:47that for early onset colorectal
- 19:48cancer
- 19:49in the UK and Australia,
- 19:51it's almost at parity now
- 19:52for men and women, which
- 19:53is very interesting as this
- 19:55may this must be some
- 19:56sort of environmental factor that's
- 19:58driving this.
- 19:59But if we look at
- 20:00the colorectal, we can see
- 20:01here that it's typically divided
- 20:03into these two parts, the
- 20:04right side and the left
- 20:05side. And you can see
- 20:06just how different they are
- 20:07in terms of the frequency
- 20:09of molecular features.
- 20:10So on the right side,
- 20:11highlighted here in green, you
- 20:13tend to have more,
- 20:15CpG islemethylated
- 20:16phenotype,
- 20:18more BRAF mutations, and more
- 20:20KRAS mutations in these tumors.
- 20:22Whereas those tumors on the
- 20:23left side tend to have
- 20:24more p fifty three and
- 20:25APC mutations.
- 20:27Importantly,
- 20:28women tend to develop more
- 20:30right sided cancers than left
- 20:31sided cancers, whereas it's the
- 20:33opposite for males.
- 20:35Another important fact is that
- 20:36a right sided patient tends
- 20:38to have overall worse prognosis
- 20:40than a left sided colorectal
- 20:42cancer patient. And this is
- 20:43even after studies have adjusted
- 20:45for things such as,
- 20:46therapy use when the stage
- 20:48of the cancer diagnosis
- 20:50and also the type of
- 20:51screening.
- 20:52So you can see just,
- 20:53the differences along
- 20:55the colorectum,
- 20:56for males and females.
- 20:58So then we had, the
- 20:59question if sex differences exist
- 21:02in where tumors occur within
- 21:04the colorectum, could metabolism
- 21:05also differ in these tumors?
- 21:09So the first collaborative study
- 21:10that we did, was with
- 21:12Yatzi San, who was a
- 21:13Miles per hour student and
- 21:14Doctor. Mironova, who was a
- 21:16resident,
- 21:17and they looked at publicly
- 21:18available data. So we went
- 21:19to NCBI's
- 21:21GEO
- 21:22and we found five gene
- 21:23expression datasets, which had information
- 21:25for colorectal cancer patients and
- 21:27also the sex of the
- 21:28patient
- 21:29and where the tumor occurred
- 21:31within the colorectum.
- 21:32And what you can see
- 21:33here is just a,
- 21:35diagram of principal components analyses.
- 21:38So basically each one of
- 21:39these dots represents a gene
- 21:40expression
- 21:42profile for one of these
- 21:43tumors.
- 21:44And when the dots are
- 21:45sort of more closely clustered
- 21:46together, it means they're more
- 21:47similar in their gene expression
- 21:49profile.
- 21:50So the figure on the
- 21:51left,
- 21:52shows
- 21:53differences in gene expression between
- 21:55the right side and the
- 21:56left sided tumors for women,
- 21:58and the figure in b
- 21:59shows the differences between men
- 22:01and women for right sided
- 22:02cancers.
- 22:03So you can see just
- 22:04how different even the gene
- 22:06expression at the gene expression
- 22:07level these,
- 22:09these
- 22:10are.
- 22:11We then model this gene
- 22:12expression data,
- 22:14using a tool called MetaCore
- 22:16and with help from Rolando,
- 22:18Garciemilian
- 22:19at the the Yale Medical
- 22:21Library.
- 22:22And what we found was
- 22:23five pathways that seem to
- 22:24be enriched in women that
- 22:26had right sided colorectal cancer.
- 22:28So this is just one
- 22:29of them here, and it's
- 22:30the carbohydrate responsive element binding
- 22:32protein pathway.
- 22:34And it basically shows that
- 22:35these genes work together to
- 22:36regulate
- 22:37protein kinase a signaling,
- 22:39also AMPK and GPCRs.
- 22:42And we've seen the same
- 22:43effect actually in more of
- 22:44our studies now, doing metabolomics.
- 22:46So we have replicated this.
- 22:51So now I'd like to
- 22:52move on to, our sort
- 22:53of metabolomics analysis.
- 22:55So we decided to,
- 22:57design this study to investigate
- 22:59sex differences in metabolism in
- 23:00tissues from the colorectal cancer
- 23:02patients.
- 23:03And doctor Khan and I
- 23:04collaborated with doctor Patty Patey,
- 23:06rather, at Memorial Sloan Kettering
- 23:08Cancer Center.
- 23:10But in the nineteen nineties,
- 23:11he collected tumor tissues and
- 23:13normal tissues
- 23:14and also liver metastases and
- 23:16normal liver from over seven
- 23:18hundred and sixty two cases.
- 23:21The tumors are actually taken
- 23:22in the OR and then
- 23:23snap frozen and put in
- 23:25the minus eighty freezer.
- 23:26So they're really perfect for
- 23:27mass spectrometry
- 23:28analysis.
- 23:30In twenty eighteen, we were
- 23:32lucky to receive a r
- 23:33twenty one grant, which enabled
- 23:35us to hire somebody to
- 23:36go to the medical vault
- 23:38at Sloan Kettering and transpose
- 23:40all of the medical records
- 23:41for the seven hundred and
- 23:43sixty two patients. So we
- 23:44then had information
- 23:46more information about these patients,
- 23:48including their out outcomes. So
- 23:50it's very valuable resource.
- 23:53So for our first study,
- 23:54we wanted to keep it
- 23:55very clean. So we just
- 23:56looked at stage one to
- 23:57three,
- 23:58cases.
- 23:59At the time, we didn't
- 24:00know if the stage four
- 24:01cases had been treated with
- 24:03chemotherapy
- 24:04beforehand, which could change the
- 24:05metabolism.
- 24:06And we just looked at
- 24:07the left and the right
- 24:08sided cases.
- 24:10So we had a hundred
- 24:11and two, tissues from males
- 24:13and ninety five from females,
- 24:15and then we also had
- 24:16about thirty nine normal mucosa.
- 24:21So doctors Kai and Retre,
- 24:23back in twenty eighteen, performed
- 24:25the untargeted metabolomic analysis.
- 24:27And basically what we did
- 24:29was extracted the tissues for
- 24:31metabolites,
- 24:32and then we ran them
- 24:33through our LC QTof,
- 24:35mass spectrometry
- 24:36system.
- 24:37And this system allows us
- 24:38to look in an unbiased
- 24:40manner at everything that's present
- 24:42within these tumor tissues that
- 24:44is below basically twelve hundred
- 24:45daltons, all these low molecular
- 24:47weight, metabolites.
- 24:49So in our analysis, we
- 24:51can look at about forty
- 24:52thousand different features.
- 24:54In our lab, we have
- 24:56a database now that's comprised
- 24:58of one thousand standards, so
- 24:59we're able to directly match
- 25:01these features to the standards.
- 25:03And then we performed a
- 25:05statistical analysis, and then we
- 25:06looked to see if any
- 25:07of these metabolites were prognostic
- 25:09by sex.
- 25:11So, actually, our initial analysis
- 25:13showed us,
- 25:14similar findings to what I
- 25:15showed you in that figure
- 25:16before where we saw that
- 25:17male tumors for males tended
- 25:19to have sort of a
- 25:20high production of lactate,
- 25:21whereas for females, it seemed
- 25:23that, glucose was shunted into
- 25:24the pentose phosphate pathway,
- 25:27and produce NADPH.
- 25:29But there was one pathway
- 25:30that really stood out to
- 25:31us, and that was the,
- 25:33asparagine metabolic pathway,
- 25:35where in female patients,
- 25:37we could see that asparagine
- 25:38was produced at a high
- 25:40amount in stage one, two,
- 25:41and three tissues.
- 25:43So this is just a
- 25:43diagram here of the abundance
- 25:45of asparagine in the normal
- 25:46tissues and then the stage
- 25:48one, two, and three
- 25:49for males and females. So
- 25:51you can see for male
- 25:52tissues that it was only
- 25:53at stage three that asparagine
- 25:54was significantly increased.
- 25:57Around the same time, we
- 25:59saw this paper from UCLA,
- 26:01and they noted that asparagine
- 26:03could actually be used when
- 26:04the tumor tissues are nutrient
- 26:06deplete and need to keep
- 26:07growing. And what asparagine
- 26:09does, it helps increase,
- 26:11mTOR and also protein synthesis
- 26:14and nucleotide synthesis.
- 26:15And it can actually,
- 26:17also increase the uptake of
- 26:19serine and threonine to help
- 26:20tumor growth.
- 26:21So we measured these metabolites,
- 26:23and again, we saw that
- 26:25they were increased,
- 26:26only really in the female
- 26:27tumors at stage one to
- 26:29three. So this sort of
- 26:30helped us develop our hypothesis
- 26:32that, you know, asparagine could
- 26:33be very important. And here
- 26:35you can see here that
- 26:36asparagine, anthranine, and serine are
- 26:38positively correlated as well.
- 26:40So this suggested to us
- 26:42that asparagine increases in tumors
- 26:44from female patients to drive
- 26:45growth under nutrient deplete conditions.
- 26:50So asparagine is a nonessential
- 26:52amino acid, so it can
- 26:53actually be derived from the
- 26:54diet. But the tumor cells
- 26:56can produce it themselves through
- 26:57this, for Asparte and through
- 26:59this asparagine synthetase,
- 27:02reaction,
- 27:03which require requires glutamine and
- 27:05ATP.
- 27:06So we went to TCGA
- 27:08and the CoEDGE,
- 27:10resource, and we looked at
- 27:11ASNS expression in females and
- 27:13males.
- 27:14And we saw that if
- 27:15a female patient had high
- 27:17ASNS expression, they had a
- 27:18poor outcome compared to or
- 27:20five year over so honestly,
- 27:22not five years. It's longer
- 27:23than that. Sorry.
- 27:24They had a poor outcome
- 27:25compared to those that had
- 27:27low medium ASNS expression.
- 27:29Whereas for males, there was
- 27:30no, difference whatsoever.
- 27:34So in summary for this
- 27:35section, we see that differences
- 27:37exist in tumor metabolites
- 27:39between females and males,
- 27:41That stage one to three
- 27:42tumors from females have elevated
- 27:44asparagine
- 27:45that could drive cancer growth
- 27:46during nutrient to complete conditions.
- 27:48And then overexpression
- 27:50of ASNS in TCGA is
- 27:52prognostic for females only. So
- 27:54I'm gonna turn the next
- 27:55section to such.
- 27:59So the next question we
- 28:00wanted to ask is, is
- 28:02there a link between colorectal
- 28:03cancer tumor metabolites
- 28:05and prognosis when stratified by
- 28:07sex?
- 28:10We used the same biobank
- 28:11that doctor Johnson had mentioned
- 28:13and evaluated individual metabolites for
- 28:15prognosis.
- 28:16In a multivariate
- 28:18in in the multivariable Cox
- 28:19proportional,
- 28:22hazard model where we controlled
- 28:23for clinical factors and established
- 28:26colorectal
- 28:27genes, such as MSI high
- 28:29status,
- 28:30BRAF,
- 28:31KRAS,
- 28:31we found that the eighteen
- 28:33listed metabolites
- 28:34on this slide were associated
- 28:36with prognosis in a self
- 28:37specific manner.
- 28:39Specifically, we found that asparagine,
- 28:42on the top in yellow,
- 28:44and serine,
- 28:45in the middle in blue,
- 28:47were associated with a poorer
- 28:48five year survival in females,
- 28:51whereas the same metabolites were
- 28:52associated with a better survival
- 28:54for males.
- 28:56Furthermore,
- 28:56succinate,
- 28:57was associated with a favorable
- 28:59survival in females and a
- 29:00worse survival for males.
- 29:05We next tested for sex
- 29:07specific associations after adjusting for
- 29:09the same clinical and pathologic
- 29:11variables,
- 29:12which I mentioned in the
- 29:13last slide, with a specific
- 29:14focus on the asparagine synthesis
- 29:16pathway.
- 29:18Asparagine abundance was very significantly
- 29:20associated with poor survival and
- 29:22poor recurrence free survival for
- 29:24females,
- 29:25whereas it was associated with
- 29:27the favorable survival for males.
- 29:29So females had a a
- 29:30hazard ratio of six point
- 29:32three nine for overall
- 29:33death with overexpression
- 29:35of asparagine.
- 29:38We then, performed a COX
- 29:40survival analysis looking at the
- 29:42asparagine levels.
- 29:44High expression of asparagine, shown
- 29:45in blue,
- 29:47on these Kaplan Meier curves
- 29:48had a worse overall survival
- 29:51and a worse recurrence free
- 29:52survival,
- 29:54compared to low asparagine levels,
- 29:55which are shown in red,
- 29:57and this finding was only
- 29:58found in female patients.
- 30:00In males in male patients,
- 30:02asparagine actually was not associated
- 30:03with survival at all. So
- 30:05just to summarize a bit,
- 30:06so Caroline had mentioned about
- 30:08ASNS. This is the asparagine
- 30:09metabolite, so,
- 30:11the story is starting to
- 30:12build. So in summary,
- 30:16sex specific differences
- 30:18exist between individual metabolites and
- 30:20prognosis.
- 30:23Asparagine metabolism is linked to
- 30:25poor survival in females.
- 30:28And that we talked about
- 30:29asparagine metabolite abundance, being,
- 30:32being the case.
- 30:34Serum metabolite abundance is linked
- 30:36to poor survival in males.
- 30:40Caroline's gonna take over each.
- 30:43So, yeah, so now we
- 30:44turned our research to look
- 30:45at the functional effect of
- 30:47ASNS and Asparagine
- 30:48on colorectal cancer metabolism.
- 30:51So this work has been
- 30:52primarily read, led by doctor
- 30:54Ola Aladelacun,
- 30:56And he's been looking at
- 30:58the role of the ASNS
- 30:59gene and also asparagine in
- 31:01driving
- 31:02cancer growth in in vitro
- 31:03and in vivo models.
- 31:05So the first first thing
- 31:06that we did was knockout
- 31:08ASNS in a colorectal cancer
- 31:10cell line. So HCT one
- 31:12one six is a male
- 31:13cell line. And you can
- 31:14see here from this diagram
- 31:16at the top,
- 31:17the two cell lines there,
- 31:20are cultured without sparigene in
- 31:21the media. And you can
- 31:23see how knockout of ASNS,
- 31:25really affects the way these
- 31:26spheroids grow. They have a
- 31:27really hard time growing.
- 31:29But if we add asparagine
- 31:30back into the media, you
- 31:31can see it actually does
- 31:33rescue cell growth. So this
- 31:35just shows for this cell
- 31:36line that ASNS and asparagine
- 31:38are important to maintain,
- 31:40the growth of the cancer.
- 31:43We then took these cell
- 31:44lines and did a subcutaneous
- 31:46xenograft,
- 31:47experiment
- 31:48using immunocompromised
- 31:49mice. This was done in
- 31:51collaboration
- 31:51with the Center for Precision
- 31:54Modeling Core.
- 31:55So we had ten mice
- 31:56per group, males and females
- 31:58inoculated with the ASNS,
- 32:00wild type or, knockout cell
- 32:03line, and then they were
- 32:04grown for about three weeks.
- 32:06So we looked at the
- 32:07growth kinetics and also the
- 32:09metabolomics of the tumors as
- 32:10well.
- 32:12So the diagram on the
- 32:13left shows you the asparagine
- 32:15abundance,
- 32:16within the tumors.
- 32:18You can see that in
- 32:19green, these are the knockout
- 32:21cell lines that were grown
- 32:22in the mice, and you
- 32:23can see they do produce
- 32:24less asparagine
- 32:25than the wild type cell
- 32:27line. But the difference is
- 32:28about the same for both
- 32:29males and females.
- 32:31When we look at tumor
- 32:32volume,
- 32:32we can see that the,
- 32:34the tumors that grow in
- 32:36the males
- 32:37grow the fastest, but the
- 32:38knockout does have an effect
- 32:39on how these tumors grow.
- 32:41They grow a lot slower.
- 32:43And and then for the
- 32:43female, the cell lines, they
- 32:45both grow slower in the
- 32:46females compared to the males,
- 32:47but the knockout has the
- 32:49slowest tumor growth.
- 32:51But our next question was,
- 32:53you know, what is the
- 32:54effect of asparagine supplementation?
- 32:56So thinking about this in
- 32:57terms of we find asparagine
- 32:59readily in our diet and
- 33:00can be produced by the
- 33:01microbiome as well.
- 33:03So we took the ASNS
- 33:05wild type,
- 33:06cell lines and did a
- 33:07xenograft again,
- 33:08in the males and females
- 33:10and gave the mice an
- 33:11IP injection of one or
- 33:13ten MPK asparagine
- 33:15about every three to seven
- 33:16days and, let these tumors
- 33:18grow again for about three
- 33:19weeks.
- 33:20So you can see in
- 33:21the in the males, the
- 33:23asparagine did slightly increase tumor
- 33:25volume at the earlier stages,
- 33:27but ultimately
- 33:28at the end of three
- 33:28weeks, the tumor volume was
- 33:30about the same.
- 33:31But surprising to us,
- 33:33we saw that Asparagine actually
- 33:35decreased tumor growth in the
- 33:37female mice, which was opposite
- 33:38to our hypothesis. But I
- 33:39like it when that happens
- 33:40because it leads to new
- 33:41questions
- 33:42and new findings.
- 33:44So one thing we thought
- 33:45is that perhaps the asparagine
- 33:46being present in the in
- 33:48the female mice is having
- 33:49a negative feedback on the
- 33:51production of asparagine in the
- 33:52tumor and maybe knocking you
- 33:54know, decreasing the expression of
- 33:55ASNS.
- 33:57So we looked at ASNS
- 33:58expression in the tumor tissues,
- 34:00and we saw that it
- 34:01was indeed decreased only in
- 34:03the female tumors, and it
- 34:04wasn't changed in the male
- 34:06tumors after asparagine supplementation.
- 34:09We then looked at asparagine
- 34:11and aspartate levels in the
- 34:12tumors, and we could see
- 34:13that for both the males
- 34:14and the females that were
- 34:16given,
- 34:16exogenous asparagine,
- 34:18asparagine levels did increase within
- 34:20the tumors.
- 34:21And then surprising to us,
- 34:22we saw that aspartate was
- 34:24decreased in the female tumors
- 34:26only
- 34:27that were given asparagine.
- 34:29So aspartate is a substrate
- 34:30for this reaction.
- 34:32So aspartate actually requires a
- 34:34transporter to be brought into
- 34:35the cell,
- 34:37the cancer cell, whereas asparagine
- 34:38can use a transporter or
- 34:40it can passively
- 34:41diffuse.
- 34:42So we looked at the
- 34:43transporter SLC one a three,
- 34:46and we saw again that
- 34:47this was significantly
- 34:48decreased in the female mice
- 34:50that received asparagine,
- 34:52but but it was actually
- 34:52increased in the male mice.
- 34:54You can just see how
- 34:55different these are between the
- 34:56mouse models just by sex
- 34:58of the mouse.
- 35:00So de novo asparagine production
- 35:02decreased in the female tumors
- 35:03only. So I'll just talk
- 35:05about sort of the hormonal
- 35:07changes that we saw as
- 35:08well in these mice that
- 35:09had asparagine
- 35:11supplemented.
- 35:12So we measured estradiol
- 35:14just using a serum estradiol
- 35:15using ELISA.
- 35:17And what we found was
- 35:18surprising to us again was
- 35:20that when the mice received
- 35:21asparagine,
- 35:22it's actually increased estradiol levels
- 35:24in the serum of the
- 35:25female mice, but it decreased
- 35:27estradiol levels in the serum
- 35:29of the male mice.
- 35:30So we didn't unfortunately have
- 35:31the ovaries from these,
- 35:34from these mice, but we
- 35:35did look at aromatase expression
- 35:37in the tumors.
- 35:38And we found as well
- 35:39that asparagine actually increased aromatase
- 35:42expression in the tumors themselves
- 35:43from female mice, but there
- 35:45was no effect in the
- 35:46males.
- 35:47And this is interesting because
- 35:48estradiol is a known anti
- 35:50proliferative for colorectal cancer and
- 35:52does provide protection for women
- 35:53against colorectal cancer. So this
- 35:55increase in estradiol and aromatase
- 35:57could be potentially
- 35:59having that sort of effect
- 36:01on decreasing the tumor growth.
- 36:04We then looked at the
- 36:04estrogen receptors, and we found
- 36:06no difference in estrogen receptor
- 36:08beta or alpha expression.
- 36:10So we looked at Gepa,
- 36:12which is
- 36:13a membrane bound and very
- 36:15nutrient sensitive estrogen receptor.
- 36:17And what we found was
- 36:18that this actually did change
- 36:19in expression in response to
- 36:21asparagine
- 36:22being supplemented.
- 36:23So it's significantly decreasing the
- 36:25females and again increasing the
- 36:27males.
- 36:28So we did some further
- 36:30investigations into the link between
- 36:31GPRA and ASNS,
- 36:33and we see they're actually
- 36:34linked to each other through
- 36:35this integrated stress response pathway,
- 36:38which is typically activated as
- 36:40well under nutrient stress.
- 36:41So you may recognize some
- 36:43of these,
- 36:44molecules here if you work
- 36:45in this area, but we
- 36:46could see that downstream of
- 36:48of GPO signaling,
- 36:49we have AMPK
- 36:50and we have p r
- 36:51three k and mTOR
- 36:53and also ASNS.
- 36:55So in our models, we
- 36:56see that in the females,
- 36:57when we give them asparagine,
- 36:59this has a knock on
- 36:59effect of decreasing this pathway
- 37:01and decreasing tumor growth. But
- 37:03in the males, it appears
- 37:04to be an opposite effect.
- 37:08In another study, led by
- 37:10Lingan Liu from, CDE at
- 37:12YSPH,
- 37:13he looked at G Pro
- 37:14expression
- 37:15in TCGA
- 37:16again. And what we saw
- 37:18was that at the advanced
- 37:19stages of tumor growth, so
- 37:21at stage three and four,
- 37:23female patients,
- 37:24with high GPRA expression have
- 37:26a poor outcome compared to
- 37:28low expression
- 37:29where we don't see that
- 37:30effect for males and we
- 37:31don't see that effect in
- 37:32the early stages as well.
- 37:36So I just wanna mention
- 37:37in two slides a resource
- 37:39that might also be useful
- 37:40for Yale Cancer Center members.
- 37:42So within this space, we
- 37:44were also wondering what the
- 37:45scale of sex disparities in
- 37:47cancers are.
- 37:48So I have this very
- 37:49talented PhD student, Shiny Shen,
- 37:51who should be graduating soon.
- 37:53She's commented by both me
- 37:55and Saaj, and she wanted
- 37:56to understand what really is
- 37:58the scale of these differences.
- 37:59So what are the molecular
- 38:01differences,
- 38:02potential therapeutic efficacy and adverse
- 38:05responses,
- 38:06and also some environmental factors
- 38:07that could affect risk, such
- 38:09as different exposures and the
- 38:11microbiome.
- 38:12But when she looked in
- 38:13the literature, she found this
- 38:14information
- 38:15very disparate,
- 38:16and there were no real
- 38:17databases that held this information.
- 38:20And if there was a
- 38:20database, it was quite old
- 38:22or didn't really have everything
- 38:23in there.
- 38:24So she decided to make
- 38:25her own database, which is
- 38:27called Onco Sexome.
- 38:29And what she's done is
- 38:30amass all of the sex
- 38:31differences that she could find
- 38:33on seventy one different cancers.
- 38:35So we have four domains
- 38:36here. I can't talk about
- 38:37it in detail because of
- 38:38time, but basically we have,
- 38:41sex differences on over two
- 38:43thousand drugs, the anticancer drugs,
- 38:45in terms of pharmacokinetics,
- 38:47adverse responses, side effects. You
- 38:49know, throughout we see with
- 38:51five Fluorouracil, it has poor
- 38:52efficacy and more side effects
- 38:54for females with colorectal cancer.
- 38:56That's just one finding from
- 38:57this.
- 38:59Over three hundred and sixty
- 39:00risk factors using data from
- 39:02IARC,
- 39:03and then nearly twelve thousand
- 39:04different molecular differences in terms
- 39:07of genes, immune cells,
- 39:10hormones, and proteins.
- 39:12And then nearly fifteen hundred
- 39:14different microbes that are changing
- 39:16their risk,
- 39:17for different types of cancers.
- 39:19So if you're working in
- 39:19this area,
- 39:21I'd encourage you to check
- 39:22it out.
- 39:24So just to summarize,
- 39:26we do see in our
- 39:27studies that ASNS knockout slows
- 39:29tumor growth and decreases tumor
- 39:31asparagine levels.
- 39:33Asparagine supplementation
- 39:34has this differential effect on
- 39:36CRC tumors that express ASNS,
- 39:40and GPO signaling could be
- 39:41driving these differences,
- 39:43where high GPO is actually
- 39:44linked to poor outcomes for
- 39:46advanced stage females only.
- 39:48So I'm gonna have, Serge
- 39:50wrap up the last.
- 39:55The team science approach for
- 39:57the Johnson and Khan Labs
- 39:58for nearly a decade has
- 40:00generated a lot of exciting
- 40:01findings,
- 40:02but we continue to build
- 40:03what we've done together.
- 40:05As part of our current
- 40:06r o one, our labs
- 40:07are looking at sex specific
- 40:09clinical factors which regulate asparagin
- 40:11metabolism in colorectal cancer patients.
- 40:14We are building a well
- 40:15annotated clinical database.
- 40:18Jean, who's in my lab,
- 40:20is working on this where
- 40:21he's building a robust database
- 40:24of patients with stage three
- 40:25colon cancer, stage four colon
- 40:27cancer, stage four colon cancer,
- 40:29liver metastases,
- 40:31and he is
- 40:32developing tissue microarrays,
- 40:34and he's about to start
- 40:36to doing spatial transcriptomics experiments
- 40:37and RNA sequencing experiments
- 40:40on the tumor blocks to
- 40:41better characterize the asparagine
- 40:43and the estrogen pathways.
- 40:45At the same time, we're
- 40:46also prospectively collecting tumors and
- 40:49stool from patients in collaborations
- 40:51with our wonderful colorectal colleagues
- 40:53at the Yale New Haven
- 40:54Hospital, Bridgeport Hospital. Again, we
- 40:56have a great health system
- 40:57here, so two different sites
- 40:59of surgeons,
- 41:00have are helping us, crew
- 41:02some of our patients here.
- 41:03And finally, we're closely collaborating
- 41:05with doctor Juthen Roper, who's
- 41:07a gastroenterologist
- 41:08at Duke University and has
- 41:09been a wonderful partner for
- 41:10Caroline and I.
- 41:13Through our collaboration with doctor
- 41:14Roper,
- 41:15we're using an orthotopic
- 41:17mouse model using
- 41:19CRISPR edited
- 41:20ASNS edited cells to better
- 41:22recapitulate
- 41:23the metabolic changes
- 41:25in the colorectal cancer during
- 41:26cancer development and the progression
- 41:28towards liver metastasis, which is
- 41:30a great model to study
- 41:31our, stage three and stage
- 41:33four colorectal cancer.
- 41:37In addition to our RO1,
- 41:39we are building on some
- 41:40of the additional high impact
- 41:41work, that we've done, some
- 41:43of which is already published,
- 41:44and some of which is
- 41:45based on one of our
- 41:46R21s
- 41:47on social disadvantages
- 41:49and patient outcomes, which are
- 41:51linked to increased deaths in
- 41:52African Americans with colorectal cancer,
- 41:55and the microbiome.
- 41:56We continue to use the
- 41:57National Cancer Database. I see
- 41:59Wafa here in the audience.
- 42:00She's another member of our
- 42:01lab who's working on that
- 42:02right now in the All
- 42:03of Us database, which, Sam
- 42:05Butinski, who's one of our
- 42:06former surgical who's a current
- 42:07surgical resident, was in the
- 42:09lab,
- 42:10has been using to examine
- 42:11risk factors and barriers to
- 42:13GI cancer care and the
- 42:14well-being.
- 42:15And finally, our labs have
- 42:17also shown,
- 42:18through the work of, Montana
- 42:20Morris, who's actually a research
- 42:22fellow at University of Pennsylvania,
- 42:23and Doctor Abhishek Jain, who
- 42:25is a member of the
- 42:26Johnson Lab, who is now
- 42:27a faculty at SUNY Albany,
- 42:28have shown that there and
- 42:30they've shown that there's clear
- 42:31metabolic
- 42:32heterogeneity
- 42:33on colon cancer liver metastases,
- 42:35based on the site of
- 42:36the primary tumor of the
- 42:37sidedness, the right sided versus
- 42:39the left side going to
- 42:40one of Caroline's earlier slides.
- 42:43So in conclusion,
- 42:44studying sex as a biological
- 42:46variable is important in the
- 42:47pursuit towards precision medicine.
- 42:51All the work presented by
- 42:52doctor Johnson and I, however,
- 42:54is clearly a team effort.
- 42:55So here's our acknowledgment slide,
- 42:57and it shows the current
- 42:58members of each of our
- 42:59labs, and it acknowledges the
- 43:00many previous members who we
- 43:02have been fortunate to mentor.
- 43:04We have had wonderful collaborations
- 43:06at Yale, both at the
- 43:07School of Public Health and
- 43:08the School of Medicine across
- 43:09multiple departments,
- 43:11and some of those individuals
- 43:12are listed here.
- 43:13Across the United States, we're
- 43:15fortunate to have great collaborations
- 43:16with doctor Jatin Roper at
- 43:18Duke University and, doctor Philip
- 43:20Pady at Memorial Sloan Kettering
- 43:21Cancer Center.
- 43:22So we thank you for
- 43:23your time, and the floor
- 43:25is open for questions.
- 43:27Thank you very much.
- 43:37I think there's some microphones
- 43:38here of, being with Mozart.
- 43:50That was a great talk.
- 43:52Thank you very much.
- 43:54In one of the slides,
- 43:56you mentioned that there
- 43:58were seven hundred and something
- 44:00specimens from the Sloan Kettering
- 44:02database over a thirty year
- 44:04period or something. It doesn't
- 44:06seem like very many. So
- 44:07did you have to choose
- 44:08different specimens, or how how
- 44:11come there were only seven
- 44:12hundred and sixty?
- 44:14Yeah. Do you want me
- 44:15to answer that? I don't
- 44:16know the answer to that.
- 44:17Okay.
- 44:18You know, that was developed
- 44:20over it's it it just
- 44:21shows how much hard work
- 44:22was to get to those
- 44:23seven hundred sixty two. So
- 44:25those were accrued,
- 44:26for, you know, about fifteen
- 44:28years or so,
- 44:29and part of it when
- 44:30I was a research fellow
- 44:31in, at Memorial Sloan Kettering.
- 44:33And
- 44:34but, you know,
- 44:36I think some of it
- 44:37came down to some being
- 44:38practical about certain things, about
- 44:40what time the tumor was
- 44:41removed in the operating room
- 44:43and who was around that
- 44:44day,
- 44:45because these had to be
- 44:47captured and snap frozen and,
- 44:49prepared freshly so they could
- 44:50be used for subsequent analyses.
- 44:52But,
- 44:53but, it's it's actually one
- 44:55of the largest biorepositories
- 44:57in the world.
- 44:58So, but it did you
- 45:00know, ideally, we would have
- 45:01had more, but I think,
- 45:02you know, seven hundred sixty
- 45:03two is, but those are
- 45:05all of the cases from
- 45:06the biorepository.
- 45:15Yeah.
- 45:19Thank you for the presentation.
- 45:22Did you,
- 45:23assess the the immunostatice
- 45:27of your patients?
- 45:28Particular, for instance,
- 45:30cytokine,
- 45:31chemokine,
- 45:33those parameters.
- 45:35That's one. Number two,
- 45:38you're you're talking about
- 45:40the difference of the, aging
- 45:42process,
- 45:43a sex
- 45:46and,
- 45:47among the patient with
- 45:49how about the print
- 45:51the picture of aging
- 45:54in other age
- 45:56into the picture,
- 45:58and then relate that to
- 46:00the
- 46:01sex hormone?
- 46:04Yeah. So that there are
- 46:05two great questions.
- 46:06For the immune status, we
- 46:08haven't looked at that, but
- 46:09I think that's something that
- 46:10we can look at with
- 46:11the micro rate, the
- 46:14TMAs rather that we're developing
- 46:16in the lab.
- 46:18In terms of age, so
- 46:19our studies primarily have focused
- 46:21on individuals
- 46:22over fifty five. So I
- 46:24think they're fifty five to
- 46:25eighteen. There probably is some,
- 46:27you know, range within
- 46:29that age group as well
- 46:30in terms of the metabolites.
- 46:33For the prognostic work, we
- 46:34do
- 46:35adjust for age to take
- 46:36that into account,
- 46:38but we have started some
- 46:39new studies,
- 46:40last year on early onset
- 46:41colorectal cancer. So for patients
- 46:44under the age of fifty,
- 46:45We had a paper out
- 46:46earlier this year with that
- 46:48data.
- 46:49We don't have a huge
- 46:50number of cases, so we
- 46:52didn't stratify by sex initially.
- 46:55I think there's about fifty
- 46:56cases for early onset, but
- 46:58we do see some, you
- 46:59know, striking differences compared to
- 47:01late onset.
- 47:03But we have a study
- 47:04right now where we are
- 47:05looking at early onset.
- 47:07We found
- 47:08actually, Asparagine doesn't seem to
- 47:09be coming up as an
- 47:11important pathway for the early
- 47:13onset, but we have,
- 47:15also found data in collaboration
- 47:17with other individuals to validate
- 47:19that work even though it's,
- 47:20like, smaller
- 47:21sample sizes. So, yeah, it's
- 47:23definitely
- 47:24an important thing to look
- 47:25at. And in our in
- 47:27our current collections,
- 47:29Yale, we are looking at
- 47:30things such as, oral contraceptive
- 47:33use,
- 47:34HRT use, and,
- 47:37anything
- 47:38else. Oophorectomy.
- 47:40Oophorectomy
- 47:41as well and things like
- 47:42that. So
- 47:49yep.
- 47:51Since you did
- 47:53metabolomics
- 47:55and also renate the asparagin
- 47:57sensitivities
- 47:58may play clear on there.
- 48:01Did you ever look into
- 48:02the possibility
- 48:04actually asparagin,
- 48:07over
- 48:07aspartate
- 48:09ratio
- 48:11as a perimeter.
- 48:13Maybe you'll find the more
- 48:14significance,
- 48:16more
- 48:16drastic difference there using the
- 48:19ratio and relating that to
- 48:21in the in the plasma.
- 48:23That's just one suggestion.
- 48:26Another is
- 48:28the we actually intend to
- 48:30assess the in the pancreatic
- 48:32cancer's
- 48:33situation.
- 48:34The cytokine, chemokine
- 48:37profile
- 48:38of the patient on the
- 48:40different
- 48:41treatment.
- 48:42So if you're interested, you
- 48:44can come to us. We
- 48:45use
- 48:46the beads to evaluate that.
- 48:48Okay. At least the more
- 48:50than ten
- 48:51cytokine, chemokine.
- 48:52Mhmm. Perhaps we can help
- 48:54you on some of those
- 48:56aspects. Thank you. I think
- 48:57it's very generous.
- 48:58Yeah. I think with the
- 48:59ratio, it's a little bit
- 49:00tricky because
- 49:01asparagine can come like, if
- 49:03we're looking at,
- 49:04clinical samples, asparagine can come
- 49:07from the diet as well
- 49:09and also from microbial production.
- 49:13So we have some studies
- 49:15planned in the mouse models,
- 49:17actually, where we're
- 49:19going to be or we
- 49:21currently have a study where
- 49:22we're knocking out ASNS in
- 49:23a bacterial cell line with
- 49:25Andy Goodman's lab. So we're
- 49:27going to see what effect
- 49:28that might have on the
- 49:29tumor and then also modulate
- 49:30the diet.
- 49:32So yeah. But that's a
- 49:33good idea. Thanks.
- 49:35I mean, I I think
- 49:36that's phenomenal. You know, obviously,
- 49:38it's a wonderful work over
- 49:40a decade for all the
- 49:41the samples that have been
- 49:42collected, the science that has
- 49:43come forth.
- 49:44I think one of the
- 49:45challenges for metabolomics is, of
- 49:47course, the,
- 49:49you know, there's so many
- 49:50variables to adjust for,
- 49:52including, say, genomics, including,
- 49:55you know, the dietary
- 49:57concerns, immune modulation.
- 50:01And and I think also
- 50:02this field of functional metabolomics
- 50:03of, like, how do you
- 50:04actually look at, you know,
- 50:05maybe,
- 50:06labeling some of these molecules
- 50:08and seeing if they're coming
- 50:09up in this.
- 50:10So, you know, I I
- 50:11I sense that you're thinking
- 50:12about animal models as your
- 50:14next step to to confirm
- 50:15your work. But how are
- 50:17you going to account for
- 50:17all this heterogeneity that's that's
- 50:19involved in thinking about colon
- 50:21cancers in general? You know?
- 50:23Because I think diet is
- 50:24different, and your CMS subclasses
- 50:26are different. So what are
- 50:27what are your guys' thoughts
- 50:28on how to address that?
- 50:30Try.
- 50:32Yeah. So that that's a
- 50:33great question, Kieran. So,
- 50:35so that's what we're, you
- 50:36know, working on right now
- 50:38to figure out,
- 50:39because there are different areas
- 50:41that could explain some of
- 50:42our findings in regards to
- 50:43asparagine. And the question is,
- 50:44is it inherent to the
- 50:45tumor in and of itself,
- 50:48which is where,
- 50:49the spheroid and the organoid
- 50:50model is becomes very useful.
- 50:52Is it coming from,
- 50:54the diet?
- 50:55So, hence, the animal model
- 50:57that we have, we can
- 50:58adjust the asparagine in the
- 50:59chow. But in addition to
- 51:01that, we're prospectively collecting,
- 51:03a questionnaire for our patients
- 51:05to see what their dietary
- 51:07intake may be representative of
- 51:08asparagine two to see if
- 51:09it's coming from the environment
- 51:10or the diet. And, the
- 51:12work that Caroline mentioned with
- 51:13Andy Goodman,
- 51:15there's a very good,
- 51:16mouse model that's being used,
- 51:18to look if the microbiome
- 51:19might be driving some of
- 51:20those findings as well too.
- 51:21So I think, you know,
- 51:23to answer the question, stay
- 51:25tuned. Hopefully, in a few
- 51:26years, we'll have some, more
- 51:27specific answers to that.
- 51:31Of course.
- 51:32I think the problem of
- 51:34current approach
- 51:36is too much reductionist
- 51:38approach.
- 51:39You have to consider
- 51:41system biology
- 51:42approach.
- 51:44So when you look at
- 51:45the those marker
- 51:47and then you're looking for
- 51:48the parameter in the plasma,
- 51:51so if you focus just
- 51:53on bacteria
- 51:55or just on the
- 51:57nutrition status may not be.
- 51:59You are looking the overall
- 52:01pictures.
- 52:02And,
- 52:03using the AI system, I
- 52:05think it's going to be
- 52:06discussed,
- 52:07you may end up with
- 52:09a surprising,
- 52:15more surprising results.
- 52:17That's what we did.
- 52:19We actually didn't do too
- 52:20many colon patients.
- 52:23In our clinic trial,
- 52:25we can predict that,
- 52:27we use metabolomics
- 52:29and cytokine chemokine profile,
- 52:32just this two parameter ink.
- 52:35For each patient, we're showing
- 52:36a deal with more than
- 52:37one hundred data points.
- 52:39Well, we have to use
- 52:41the statistics. This is with
- 52:47collaboration.
- 52:48We end up with the
- 52:49only three parameter can predict
- 52:51whether the patient that's a
- 52:54with limit patient,
- 52:56well, response,
- 52:57to the chemotherapy
- 52:59or not.
- 53:00And,
- 53:02if in the first two
- 53:03cycles.
- 53:04So then just make a
- 53:06point.
- 53:07Consider using system biology
- 53:09working together
- 53:11with your,
- 53:14with with with the if
- 53:15you'd,
- 53:16with with your
- 53:18statistician.
- 53:20They are really powerful
- 53:22tool to explore those complicated
- 53:25issues you brought in.
- 53:28Yeah. Thanks. Very good point.
- 53:30You know, the challenge sometimes,
- 53:32I think, with using the
- 53:32systems approach is, again,
- 53:34it can,
- 53:36you're not sure what the
- 53:37effect of where the variable
- 53:38is driving the the biological
- 53:41findings. So that's why we're
- 53:42trying to keep it simple
- 53:43and focus on the microbiome,
- 53:45the diet,
- 53:46and then
- 53:47the the cancer cells in
- 53:48and of itself. But,
- 53:50but, yeah, I think,
- 53:51very good points that you
- 53:52bring up.
- 53:53Well, I think it's about
- 53:55time right now. Doctor Khan
- 53:56and doctor Johnson are available
- 53:58by email. If you have
- 53:59questions or you wanna collaborate
- 54:01or wanna access the seven
- 54:02hundred and ninety two patient,
- 54:04databank.
- 54:06But thank you very much.
- 54:07It was a wonderful talk.
- 54:08Thank you both.
- 54:10Yes.