COVID-19, Science and the Way Forward on Climate Change
May 07, 2020Robert Dubrow, MD, PhD, Professor of Epidemiology (Environmental Health Sciences); Faculty Director, Yale Center on Climate Change and Health, Environmental Health Sciences
April 2, 2020
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- 00:01- So I'm gonna talk about COVID-19, Science,
- 00:04and the way forward on climate change,
- 00:06and this talk will be more conceptual
- 00:09and not so much presenting my research.
- 00:12So next slide, please.
- 00:16So firstly,
- 00:18there's really no evidence that climate change
- 00:20caused the COVID-19 pandemic.
- 00:23However we should note that climate change does cause
- 00:27increased spread of infectious diseases
- 00:29and could contribute to future pandemics.
- 00:32So simply put, mosquitoes, ticks,
- 00:35and other disease vectors do better in a warming world.
- 00:40Floods, which are more frequent under climate change,
- 00:43spread waterborne diseases, or infections, I should say.
- 00:47And with regard to future pandemics,
- 00:50climate change causes migration
- 00:53of both human and animal populations
- 00:56and this facilitates mixing of these populations
- 00:59which could contribute to viruses
- 01:02spilling over from animals to humans.
- 01:05Next slide, please.
- 01:08However,
- 01:10whoops, could you go back one?
- 01:12Thanks.
- 01:13However climate change and enhanced disasters
- 01:16will exacerbate the COVID-19 pandemic.
- 01:20I think that's almost guaranteed.
- 01:22So we could see floods in the Midwest.
- 01:25We almost certainly will see wildfires
- 01:27in California later in the season.
- 01:30Almost certainly we'll see hurricanes in the Caribbean
- 01:33along the Gulf Coast or along the Eastern U.S.,
- 01:36and those will produce climate refugees
- 01:41who will likely be housed in shelters.
- 01:44And of course, during a pandemic,
- 01:47we don't want people housed in shelters,
- 01:49that it's closed quarters
- 01:52and not a good idea.
- 01:55There could be destruction
- 01:56of healthcare system infrastructure
- 01:58by hurricanes, wildfires, et cetera,
- 02:02and we could see more overwhelming
- 02:04of the healthcare systems,
- 02:06the various healthcare systems
- 02:08with both disaster-related patients,
- 02:10in addition to COVID-19 patients.
- 02:15Another example of how climate change
- 02:18and COVID-19 pandemic could interact
- 02:22is the Locust plague, which you've probably heard about,
- 02:26that's going on in East Africa.
- 02:27It's been happening for the last several months.
- 02:30It's thought that very heavy rains in East Africa
- 02:34precipitated this locust plague,
- 02:36probably related to climate change.
- 02:41The Locust plague has been causing agricultural failures,
- 02:45leading to food insecurity,
- 02:47leading to malnourished people
- 02:49who have weakened immune systems
- 02:51who will be more susceptible to the virus.
- 02:55Next slide, please.
- 02:57So there are many parallels
- 02:59between the pandemic and climate change.
- 03:01So let me state some of those.
- 03:03So first, of course,
- 03:05there have been long-standing warnings
- 03:07by scientists that have not been heeded
- 03:10about the risk of pandemics and about climate change.
- 03:15And since they've not been heeded,
- 03:17prevention and preparedness efforts
- 03:19have been woefully inadequate.
- 03:22Secondly,
- 03:25for both the pandemic and climate change,
- 03:28they're both disasters for public health
- 03:31and for the economy, and we'll get back to the economy.
- 03:35Both prey on the most vulnerable,
- 03:37including the elderly, poor and people of color.
- 03:43For both, an effective response requires early action,
- 03:48federal government leadership, international cooperation,
- 03:53and unprecedented societal mobilization.
- 03:56So for climate change,
- 04:00these four
- 04:02responses
- 04:03have been
- 04:05extremely poor.
- 04:07I'd say actually
- 04:10somewhat better for the pandemic.
- 04:12We could have a discussion about that,
- 04:14but also a lot of failings for the pandemic as well.
- 04:18Next slide, please.
- 04:22So both crises are urgent, but on different timescales.
- 04:26For the pandemic,
- 04:28it will probably play out over a period
- 04:30of months to several years.
- 04:34We could say it's the worst acute
- 04:36public health crisis in a century.
- 04:39I would argue that it's probably
- 04:41not the worst, at least not yet,
- 04:43not the worst public health crisis in a century.
- 04:45We have to compare it with the tobacco epidemic,
- 04:49obesity, HIV.
- 04:55So it remains to be seen where this
- 04:57pandemic will be situated overall,
- 04:59but certainly as an acute public health crisis,
- 05:02it's the worst.
- 05:05With regard to climate change,
- 05:07the timescale is decades to centuries,
- 05:11and it's possibly the worst
- 05:12public health crisis in human history,
- 05:15depending on what we do over the next decade or two.
- 05:18Next slide, please.
- 05:22So both crises can be solved by science.
- 05:26For the pandemic, we've been talking a lot, of course,
- 05:29about physical distancing, testing,
- 05:32contact tracing, quarantining, PPE,
- 05:36ventilators,
- 05:38the need to develop through scientific research
- 05:41antiviral medications, as well as a vaccine.
- 05:47So I think it's pretty clear
- 05:49how science needs to be used to solve the pandemic.
- 05:53With regard to climate change,
- 05:55scientists have shown that it's real,
- 05:58that it's caused by humans,
- 06:00that it's harming public health,
- 06:02and that the longer we delay, the worse it will get.
- 06:06And through science, we actually know what the solution is,
- 06:10which essentially is to convert
- 06:11from a fossil-fuel-based economy
- 06:14to a renewable-energy-based economy.
- 06:17That's a tall order, but as we'll talk about, it's doable.
- 06:21Next slide, please.
- 06:25So, the world economy has taken a big hit, as you all know.
- 06:30It's gonna need to be rebuilt
- 06:33and I would suggest that there are
- 06:35two paths for rebuilding the world economy.
- 06:38There's the path backwards,
- 06:40in which we would double down on our fossil fuel economy,
- 06:43or the path forward,
- 06:45in which we would seize this unprecedented opportunity
- 06:49to build a renewable energy economy.
- 06:52Next slide.
- 06:55So first, the path backwards.
- 06:58This path would pit the environment against the economy.
- 07:02It's a tried-and-true tactic that's been used
- 07:08and we continue to rollback environmental regulations
- 07:11and suspend enforcement.
- 07:15There will be stimulus infrastructure
- 07:18and/or infrastructure packages,
- 07:20no matter what the path,
- 07:22and the path backwards,
- 07:24that we'd have a package that first has no
- 07:28environmental requirements for bailed-out industries,
- 07:31like airlines, cruise ships and industrial agriculture,
- 07:35and that, second,
- 07:36resuscitates and entrenches the fossil fuel industry,
- 07:41which as you know, is currently kind of on its heels,
- 07:44and
- 07:47the path backwards will attempt
- 07:49to do that for decades to come.
- 07:52Next slide, please.
- 07:54So then there's the path forward.
- 07:56So first, I would say,
- 07:59and this isn't the main part of the path forward,
- 08:02but I think it's important to note,
- 08:05we would retain what we've learned during the pandemic.
- 08:08So that would include
- 08:10reducing business travel by relying
- 08:13more heavily on video conferencing.
- 08:15We've all or a lot of us have really
- 08:18taken up video conferencing in a big way
- 08:20and we know how to do it and it's actually quite useful.
- 08:28And of course, if we reduce business travel,
- 08:30that reduces greenhouse gas emissions.
- 08:33We could see an increase in remote working,
- 08:35which many of us have been doing
- 08:37and we've got a taste for that.
- 08:40It's not that hard to do,
- 08:42and that would also decrease greenhouse gas emissions.
- 08:46We could produce more of our own goods,
- 08:48such as drugs, medical equipment,
- 08:51and personal protective equipment
- 08:54in order to reduce vulnerability
- 08:55to globalized supply networks.
- 08:58So that would reduce shipping
- 09:00and also greenhouse gas emissions
- 09:03and we can convert
- 09:06healthcare systems from single-use to reusable PPE
- 09:10masks, gowns, gloves.
- 09:13Single-use is tremendously wasteful
- 09:15and has a larger greenhouse gas footprint
- 09:19than doing reusable.
- 09:21Next slide, please.
- 09:25So the main element of the path forward
- 09:27is to heavily invest in renewable energy.
- 09:31So the foundation of a transition
- 09:34to a renewable energy economy
- 09:37is to generate electricity with renewable energy.
- 09:41So once that's done, we can electrify transportation,
- 09:45heating of buildings, and industry.
- 09:49All of that's gonna require a huge amount of electricity.
- 09:52So it's important to develop
- 09:54energy efficiency and conservation,
- 09:56which could include
- 09:58dense well-designed livable cities
- 10:02that are a lot more energy efficient,
- 10:05developing mass transportation,
- 10:07which is also much more energy efficient
- 10:09than
- 10:12single-occupied automobiles,
- 10:15and high-speed
- 10:17inter-city trains to replace regional air travel.
- 10:22Parenthetically air travel is one of the complicated issues
- 10:27with regard to accomplishing zero greenhouse gas emissions
- 10:31because we don't know yet how we're gonna fly airplanes
- 10:36without burning fossil fuels.
- 10:40Then the final element that I'll mention
- 10:42that's related to all this
- 10:43is carbon dioxide capture and storage.
- 10:48Unfortunately the world has dithered so long
- 10:51with regard to reducing greenhouse gas emissions
- 10:54that in addition to reducing emissions,
- 10:58we're gonna have to also
- 11:00capture and store CO2.
- 11:03Now that could be done through natural mechanisms
- 11:05by reforestation, and also agricultural soil management,
- 11:10which, unfortunately, that might not be enough.
- 11:13And so people are trying to develop technologies
- 11:17to remove CO2 from the atmosphere,
- 11:19and then store it underground.
- 11:21Those technologies are not there yet,
- 11:24but we could invest in research on those technologies.
- 11:30Next slide, please.
- 11:34Then the final part of the path forward that I see
- 11:37is to invest in science education and literacy.
- 11:41So the COVID-19 experience I think shows
- 11:43that people respond to clear
- 11:46science-based messages from trusted sources.
- 11:49So
- 11:51it hasn't been perfect, obviously,
- 11:53and we haven't seen those science-based messages
- 11:57from some of our leadership,
- 11:59but we have seen it from other leadership,
- 12:01a lot of the governors,
- 12:03from medical leadership, such as Doctor Fauci and others,
- 12:08and it's actually been to me quite remarkable
- 12:14how much adherence there has been
- 12:17to the physical distancing.
- 12:20Now we might see some degradation and change in that.
- 12:24There's gonna be political demagoguery
- 12:27and there's a lot of misinformation on the internet,
- 12:30but nevertheless I think
- 12:33we could point to a positive experience
- 12:34with regards to science communication for COVID-19.
- 12:39So we need to do the same thing with climate change
- 12:41and we need to educate the general public, policy makers,
- 12:45medical and public health professionals,
- 12:47and really students at all levels about climate change,
- 12:50about its public health impacts
- 12:52and the feasibility of both solutions.
- 12:55Next slide, please.
- 12:58So this is
- 13:00a little complicated,
- 13:01but I think it's an important slide.
- 13:03So I'll walk you through it.
- 13:06This is looking at generation of electricity
- 13:09by different types of renewable energy
- 13:12and it's comparing the cost in dollars per kilowatt hour
- 13:18on the y-axis
- 13:19between 2010
- 13:22and 2018.
- 13:24It's important to note the kind of light tan coloring,
- 13:29and that's the fossil fuel cost range.
- 13:34Now, just to go through this quickly, then,
- 13:38you could see that for bioenergy, geothermal, and hydro,
- 13:42that those are all at the lower end
- 13:44of the fossil fuel cost range.
- 13:47Then very notably for solar
- 13:50voltaics,
- 13:51between 2010
- 13:53and 2018, we saw a dramatic drop in costs.
- 13:57We're now, in 2018,
- 13:59the cost is in the low range of the fossil fuel cost range.
- 14:03Concentrated solar power,
- 14:05which is another type of solar power,
- 14:08that I won't go into the details,
- 14:10there's been a very dramatic drop as well,
- 14:13although it's actually still a bit
- 14:15above the fossil fuel cost range.
- 14:18And then for offshore wind,
- 14:19has gone down to the mid range for fossil fuels
- 14:23and onshore wind is
- 14:25at the lower end now in terms of the range of fossil fuels.
- 14:29So the point I'd like to make here is
- 14:32that fossil fuel advocates
- 14:35say renewable energy would be nice,
- 14:38but it's really not feasible, it's not cost effective,
- 14:41but the fact is that that's not true,
- 14:44that we've reached a point technologically
- 14:47that it is feasible to make this transition
- 14:50from fossil fuels to renewable energy.
- 14:52There are still a few technological
- 14:56improvements that need to be made,
- 14:57such as battery storage of energy,
- 15:01but it's really there
- 15:04and so this is very feasible.
- 15:07It just requires political will
- 15:10and the necessary investments.
- 15:13Final slide, please.
- 15:16So I'd like to end
- 15:18with this quote that, "optimism is a moral imperative,"
- 15:23and that's because pessimism is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
- 15:28So I think
- 15:29we have a long road ahead with regard to climate change,
- 15:33but it's important to have optimism
- 15:36to motivate and sustain our work.
- 15:39So, thank you.